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View Poll Results: Hate Crimes?
Yes 14 34.15%
No 22 53.66%
I Don't Know 2 4.88%
I Don't Care 3 7.32%
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Like the movie with Matt Damon i believe. I forget the name.

They catch people doing crimes before they commit them.
I think you are talking about the one with tom cruise. but I can't remember the name
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Exactly. Also it's basically thought police.
How is it thought police?
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How is it thought police?
Because you're getting extra sentencing based on the thought that caused you to commit the crime as opposed to the crime itself.

Just to make it clear.

Running someone over on accident: Manslaughter
Running someone over to collect insurance: Murder
Running someone over because of their skin color: Murder + Hate Crime sentence

Why is the last scenario deserving of more punishment exactly?
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Because you're getting extra sentencing based on the thought that caused you to commit the crime as opposed to the crime itself.

Just to make it clear.

Running someone over on accident: Manslaughter
Running someone over to collect insurance: Murder
Running someone over because of their skin color: Murder + Hate Crime sentence

Why is the last scenario deserving of more punishment exactly?
Pshhhhhhhhh touche'.


But does a jury have to prove that the crime was a hate crime? Because if I shoot a black guy, me being a white guy, and the black guy happened to be breaking into my house... would there be a penalty for me protecting my life and property by virtue of the perpetrator's skin color?

Now say if that really was the case and I shot a black man who broke into my house and I felt my life was in danger, and fatally shot him, would racial equality be a factor at all?
Would I be ridiculed because I perceived a black man to be more threatening than a white man? Would it turn the case?
Would someone sympathize with him instead of me, based on my decision?
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well what if a Klan member killed a black guy & said it wasn't cause of the color of his skin?
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well what if a Klan member killed a black guy & said it wasn't cause of the color of his skin?
Who's to say he didn't? And if he did, what of it? He goes to jail for murder, or gets executed (For another debate) , end of discussion. What are you going to roast his dead body or give him a two lifetime sentence. Once again, you're punishing people for their thoughts. Think about that.
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Who's to say he didn't? And if he did, what of it? He goes to jail for murder, or gets executed (For another debate) , end of discussion. What are you going to roast his dead body or give him a two lifetime sentence. Once again, you're punishing people for their thoughts. Think about that.
I don't get what you're saying ,racism is ok?
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I don't get what you're saying ,racism is ok?
Morally, no, but it shouldn't be censored. If someone commits a crime because of racism then they're punished for the crime. Not for being racist.
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well what if a Klan member killed a black guy & said it wasn't cause of the color of his skin?
Then he would still be charged with murder.
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