I am an uneducated American who supports the war for no good reason (country, single)

TheBig3 · 04-15-2008, 10:11 PM

Who does?

tkpb938 · 04-15-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Who does?

Predator...

My bro is in Afghanistan, and he says the same things basically about afghani's and iraqi's being mostly greatful people.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-20-2008, 03:36 AM

lol^

Zombeels · 04-20-2008, 10:47 AM

So would you like to talk about Halabja? You did know Iran was first blamed for the massacre and the US even agreed with this. Then sometime later the blame shifted to Saddam. I don't know about you but when the US finally caught Saddam I was really hoping this event would come to trial. Guess what, it didn't. This was supposed to be Saddam's worst atrocity. Why wasn't he tried for this? Was somebody hiding something or protecting their own hide. Some don't even believe Saddam was responsible for the deaths at Halabja.
A War Crime Or an Act of War? - New York Times
Saddam Could Call CIA in His Defense
The Hallabja Massacre

Predator · 04-20-2008, 12:34 PM

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A War Crime Or an Act of War? - New York Times

An editorial with no citations.

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Originally Posted by Zombeels

Saddam Could Call CIA in His Defense

An article written about the first article.

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Originally Posted by Zombeels

The Hallabja Massacre

WTF? Its the same thing again. It has a different font size and background color but is the exact same article.

Zombeels · 04-20-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Predator

An editorial with no citations.

Did you see who it was written by. The top CIA analyst during the Iran-Iraq war.
My third link was supposed to be this one.

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immediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas.

The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent - that is, a cyanide-based gas - which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.

These facts have long been in the public domain but, extraordinarily, as often as the Halabja affair is cited, they are rarely mentioned.

There is more information out there.
WPONAC: Iran's Chemical Weapon Program

Now I'm not saying who is responsible. I'm just saying you had the guy that you say was responsible but charges were dropped and he was conveniently killed before it was brought to trial.

Predator · 04-20-2008, 07:59 PM

Its off topic, yet still relevant.
A pretty long and interesting read. Maybe something that should be considered before choosing what sources to listen to when forming an opinion.
World Tribune.com -- Media's coverage has distorted world's view of Iraqi reality

tkpb938 · 04-20-2008, 09:05 PM

Great article, and very true. Deaths related to the war pale in comparison to things like obesity and heart disease in the US yet somehow the war gets more negative attention... So frustrating.

sleepy jack · 04-20-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpb938

Great article, and very true. Deaths related to the war pale in comparison to things like obesity and heart disease in the US yet somehow the war gets more negative attention... So frustrating.

hahahahahahah gee I wonder why

boo boo · 04-20-2008, 09:19 PM

The way you guys downplay the war is just hillarious.

So yeah, thousands of people are dead because we f*cked up, but hey its not so bad, at least more people die from heart disease.

Yeah I'm sorry but I have no idea what the freaking point is you're trying to make, we started a war and based the reason for it on 2 things, one is proven to be a lie (Iraqs ties with Al Qaeda and 9/11) and the other is yet to be proven (WMDs), thats hardly justification for the deaths of what is now in excess of 1.2 million Iraqis and over 4000 Americans, as well as many more wounded. Trying to downplay that is pretty offensive to me.

The media has filled people with a lot of lies, but a lot of that is from the rights perspective, not the left. FoxNews are clearly biased toward the right and MSNBC is moving increasingly closer to the right as well. And even though CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS are all said to be biased towards the left, they do their fair share of GOP approved scaremongering as well.

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Zombeels Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 339	So would you like to talk about Halabja? You did know Iran was first blamed for the massacre and the US even agreed with this. Then sometime later the blame shifted to Saddam. I don't know about you but when the US finally caught Saddam I was really hoping this event would come to trial. Guess what, it didn't. This was supposed to be Saddam's worst atrocity. Why wasn't he tried for this? Was somebody hiding something or protecting their own hide. Some don't even believe Saddam was responsible for the deaths at Halabja. A War Crime Or an Act of War? - New York Times Saddam Could Call CIA in His Defense The Hallabja Massacre __________________ What It Is

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tkpb938 Lvl 70 Troll Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunny Phoenix Posts: 482	Great article, and very true. Deaths related to the war pale in comparison to things like obesity and heart disease in the US yet somehow the war gets more negative attention... So frustrating.