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OccultHawk 02-28-2018 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1930128)

At least he’s dead.

OccultHawk 02-28-2018 10:00 AM

https://www.city-journal.org/html/ju...ons-15646.html

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When it hears Janus v. American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, Council 31, the Supreme Court will decide whether public-sector unionism violates the First Amendment rights of workers who refuse to join unions.
Organized labor has become so cowardly I’m not sure it even matters.

Frownland 02-28-2018 10:11 AM

Wahh I don't want to pay a corporation to team up with my boss to stagnate my wages that will then sue me if I accuse them of doing an inadequate job doing what I'm carving out a chunk of my paycheck for.

Unions work well in small numbers and on a theoretical level, but they're far too privvy to bureaucratization and preserving their own interests over what they exist for.

OccultHawk 02-28-2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1930134)
wahh I want the higher wages without helping in any of the effort it took to get them

Have you ever paid union dues? Have you ever been part of a labor dispute? Have you ever put your ass on the line over a labor issue?

Frownland 02-28-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1930138)
Unions are subject to corruption like anything else but the numbers are clear unions mean higher wages + better benefits

virtually everything that doesn't suck sloppy testicles about working in Capitalism can be attributed to Union work

**** yes, easy answers are the best answers.

Lisnaholic 02-28-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1930122)
Apparently there's a horsefucker on the loose in our region.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1930128)
Disgusting

In my view, the way some of the horses canter around these days in skimpy bridles, they're just asking for it.

OccultHawk 02-28-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1930138)
Unions are subject to corruption like anything else but the numbers are clear unions mean higher wages + better benefits

virtually everything that doesn't suck sloppy testicles about working in Capitalism can be attributed to Union work

No doubt. Labor needs an organized RADICAL voice. But wait until you’re a member and it turns out you have no ****ing say and your union reps are so intertwined with your bosses and bureaucratic administration that instead of protecting you you’re paying dues to people who are out eating expensive meals with your bosses while you’re getting ****ed by the union itself.

The union I paid dues actually fired first year teachers who had problems. The school board didn’t fire them. I want you to hear this ****ing clearly so you can think about how incredibly non-adversarial the relationship between administration on the union was. The union actually fired the teachers. I’m not ****ting you, I don’t have it wrong.

Join a union and try to be a strong voice labor and THEY WILL HAVE YOU FIRED.

Frownland 02-28-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1930149)
In my view, the way some of the horses canter around these days in skimpy bridles, they're just asking for it.

Lol I was referring to the violation of the establishment clause but fair enough.

OccultHawk 02-28-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1930144)
yes,yes, and yes

the dues paid everyone to picket for a couple weeks instead of working, this was a large chain grocery store

I respect that.

The teacher’s union in Florida left me pretty ****ing bitter with good reason.

Yes we need organized labor but but the unions haven’t had a nutsac for several decades.

Chula Vista 02-28-2018 11:11 AM

Cool movie from the late 70s that highlights some of the sleazy aspects of unions (automobile) pretty good.

Blue Collar with Richard Pryor, Yaphet Kotto, and Harvey Keitel.



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