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Frownland 05-22-2018 01:37 PM
Trump's pretty ****in unlikable as it stands, you don't need to fetishize the military to help out with that.

OccultHawk 05-22-2018 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1953806)
McCain went into a country with the express purpose of murdering its citizens and was surprised when they didn't like that.

Trump successfully abstained from becoming a war criminal because of his wealth.

Guess which one is more ethical?
Even online you’re one of the only persons I’ve ever known who comes out with the truth about that. Respect.

Chula Vista 05-22-2018 01:51 PM
War is hell. Sometimes war is necessary. Vietnam ended up being a total cluster **** but the US got involved for a solid reason. China and Russia were really pushing the spread of communism through the North Vietnamese, which during the cold war was seen as a very dangerous thing by the US and its allies.

Communism during the 60s was viewed very differently than it is today.

grindy 05-22-2018 01:52 PM
You'd defend Hitler if it meant ****ting on Trump.

Frownland 05-22-2018 01:52 PM
Also, can't miss an opportunity for a good round of dick-waving.

EDIT: with regards to US entering Nam, not Donald defending anything that makes Donald look bad.

Chula Vista 05-22-2018 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1953836)
You'd defend Hitler if it meant ****ting on Trump.
Should the US have stayed out of WWII?

Frownland 05-22-2018 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1953838)
Should the US have stayed out of WWII?
Not sure, what'd they say on the pamphlet?

Chula Vista 05-22-2018 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1953839)
Not sure, what'd they say on the pamphlet?
"Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and Hitler's trying to take over Europe".

Or something like that.

OccultHawk 05-22-2018 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1953834)
War is hell. Sometimes war is necessary. Vietnam ended up being a total cluster **** but the US got involved for a solid reason. China and Russia were really pushing the spread of communism through the North Vietnamese, which during the cold war was seen as a very dangerous thing by the US and its allies.

Communism during the 60s was viewed very differently than it is today.
I wish we could sit in a room together and take a long comprehensive test about the Vietnam War and then compare scores. Or Chinese history. Or Russian history. Then we could see who the **** should be lecturing on the Vietnam War.

Chula Vista 05-22-2018 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1953842)
I wish we could sit in a room together and take a long comprehensive test about the Vietnam War and then compare scores. Or Chinese history. Or Russian history. Then we could see who the **** should be lecturing on the Vietnam War.
Well, you're the teacher here.

Not lecturing. Just stating basic facts. Did China and Russia not back the North Vietnamese in their effort to take to reunify the south? Wasn't the US's involvement to stop the spread of communism? I said the war ended up being a cluster ****.

Hindsight being 20/20 and all.


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