Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1954417)

My third grade teacher taught me it was unnecessary to qualify every opinion with I think.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1954422)

One problem I have with seeing soldiers as war criminals is that it throws up such a strange bunch of culprits. If I subscribed to Frownland's suggestion, I'd now be outing as war criminals the following:-

George Washington
Johnny Cash
Gene Autry
John Coltrane
Tony Bennett
Ray Manzarak (Doors)
Jason Everman (Nirvana)
Rapper Mystikal
James Blunt

Isn't there something weird about Coltrane being chucked into the same category as Adolf Eichmann? Here for comparison are some biographical details, so that you can judge for yourselves the extent to which they are equally guilty of war crimes:-

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1954423)

if I were to argue anything I'd say we all hold some responsibility for the actions of our respective governments regardless of whether we enlist

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1954425)

^ In my opinion, your third grade teacher's advice isn't adequate when you're making unfounded allegations of murder, outside the accepted legal definition of the term, on an internet forum.

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1954423)

if I were to argue anything I'd say we all hold some responsibility for the actions of our respective governments regardless of whether we enlist

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1954430)

So you why are you so enamored by communism? By your standards whether you are a card carrying member or not, just merely touting communism should make you share in the guilt for the millions that died directly from communism regimes.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1954432)

I don’t remember elph declaring an allegiance with Maoism or Stalinism.

“Not every socialist is an anarchist but every anarchist is a socialist.”

Substitute communist for socialist. He suppprts the people controlling industry communally and democratically not by totalitarian dictatorship or crushing state sponsored bureaucracy.

Felt like answering for you elph - correct me if I’ve misrepresented your position

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1954438)

Whether he is self-declared communist or socialist or Bolshevik or Nazi (I don't know and I really don't care) but he certainly like to join in on their blame game.

Until industry is controlled by AI computers, it controlled by people.

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1954442)

being that the only hope for the countries that are molested by Imperialistic powers is that enough people within that power grow a conscience such as in the case of Vietnam, there is some accountability from the governed I would say

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1954003)

how do we know you're not the Zionist puppet

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1954414)

^ Unfortunately, that's not what OH said though. He didn't qualify his comment by saying that it was just his thought and he threw in the gratuitous slur of murderer as well.
Look at how Frownland writes:-


^ This is clearly Frown's opinion, which he leaves open to debate.



^ This is slipped into a sentence so that it reads as if it were an established fact. In saying something so contentious I think it would behove OH to make clear it's just his opinion.

I don't agree with Frownland's idea that fighting soldiers are war criminals and I have no reason to imagine that Chula's dad is anything other than a regular guy who deserves respect for raising a family and making it thus far in life.