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Scarlett O'Hara 01-12-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1405184)
You also have the privilege of dying younger, getting harsher sentences for the same crimes and being far more likely to be homeless. So it's really kind of a mixed bag.

Really? I mean about being homeless and white.

Janszoon 01-12-2014 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1405193)
Really? I mean about being homeless and white.

White? What do you mean? Neither my post nor the one I was replying to had anything to do with race.

Scarlett O'Hara 01-12-2014 07:55 AM

Ignore me I'm imagining things lol. It's 3am and its a good indicator that I should sleep.

butthead aka 216 01-12-2014 07:59 AM

ok let butthead aka 216 lay it out real knwoledgable for dj, herm, etc and whoever else wants to talk about any type of priv


you guys dont want ppl to recognize their priv you want them to feel GUILTY about it. i see you guys do it all the time and thats exactly what it is. i grew up in a house that we heated with an oven. no father around. bro died in his teens. mom remarried. etc. not exactly paris hilton but i realize there are much ppl with worse cases. this isnt a pity party or sob story. but i worked for everythin i got. i put myself thru college. i went and worked shiit retail jobs thru school. i went and worked in at multiple jobs. i went and worked in the mountains in some group home for $9 an hour for a yr to build a resume. im payin my loans doin my thing. and yet everyone wants to bring up priv.... male priv... white priv.... gender priv.... straight priv... whatevs, blow it out your asses cause my jim jims just got a slight hint of rustlin.

i took full advantage of every opportunity at every turn. u mad i am succeedin?? what you want me to do feel guilty?? cause i didnt come from a sewer or have a crackhead mom or whatever? you all want me to sulk and whine and complain and have a loser life that i blame on everyone but myself. sorry i didnt come from housing projects. my bad i wasnt born a black woman. what you want really??

i recognize priv as much as the next man. prob moreso actually. its why i have worked in human services for yrs so i can help the less fortunate. even despite knuckleheads and bozos postin on the internet "blah blah the system failed so and so blah blah.' feminists and anyone who wants to harp on any type of priv can take their opinions and turn em sideways and shove up up their candy asses like the jabronis they are. everyone has their disadvantages. if there are a buncha candidates for a job with equal everythin who do u think is gettin it?? me?? or either the black guy or the asian lady. take a guess.

i feel like i have a feminist mindset postin the followin: men: more likely to die younger, commit suicide, be killed, be injured on the job, work harder jobs, get shafted in court, etc. so i really dont know what some of you are even tryin to say. to me it just comes across as an attempt to discredit ppls accomplishments while feelin sorry for yourselves

djchameleon 01-12-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1405196)
ok let butthead aka 216 lay it out real knwoledgable for dj, herm, etc and whoever else wants to talk about any type of priv


you guys dont want ppl to recognize their priv you want them to feel GUILTY about it. i see you guys do it all the time and thats exactly what it is. i grew up in a house that we heated with an oven. no father around. bro died in his teens. mom remarried. etc. not exactly paris hilton but i realize there are much ppl with worse cases. this isnt a pity party or sob story. but i worked for everythin i got. i put myself thru college. i went and worked shiit retail jobs thru school. i went and worked in at multiple jobs. i went and worked in the mountains in some group home for $9 an hour for a yr to build a resume. im payin my loans doin my thing. and yet everyone wants to bring up priv.... male priv... white priv.... gender priv.... straight priv... whatevs, blow it out your asses cause my jim jims just got a slight hint of rustlin.

i took full advantage of every opportunity at every turn. u mad i am succeedin?? what you want me to do feel guilty?? cause i didnt come from a sewer or have a crackhead mom or whatever? you all want me to sulk and whine and complain and have a loser life that i blame on everyone but myself. sorry i didnt come from housing projects. my bad i wasnt born a black woman. what you want really??

i recognize priv as much as the next man. prob moreso actually. its why i have worked in human services for yrs so i can help the less fortunate. even despite knuckleheads and bozos postin on the internet "blah blah the system failed so and so blah blah.' feminists and anyone who wants to harp on any type of priv can take their opinions and turn em sideways and shove up up their candy asses like the jabronis they are. everyone has their disadvantages.

i feel like i have a feminist mindset postin the followin: men: more likely to die younger, commit suicide, be killed, be injured on the job, work harder jobs, get shafted in court, etc. so i really dont know what some of you are even tryin to say. to me it just comes across as an attempt to discredit ppls accomplishments while feelin sorry for yourselves

You are lumping people into one group. I'm not part of that whole white guilt group. Where people feel that white people should feel guilty blah blah blah.

No one is mad at your success or trying to belittle your achievements so you can sit down with all that noise and get off your soap box.

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1405196)
if there are a buncha candidates for a job with equal everythin who do u think is gettin it?? me?? or either the black guy or the asian lady. take a guess.

The only way you wouldn't get the job is if the company you are trying to get a job at hasn't hit their diversity quota. If they didn't have a quota in place you bet your ass that you would get it over everyone else.

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1405196)
i feel like i have a feminist mindset postin the followin: men: more likely to die younger, commit suicide, be killed, be injured on the job, work harder jobs, get shafted in court, etc. so i really dont know what some of you are even tryin to say. to me it just comes across as an attempt to discredit ppls accomplishments while feelin sorry for yourselves

While some of that is true you can't look at the world and tell me that it isn't run by white males. They have the most power.

Cuthbert 01-12-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1405181)
It is bollocks because you benefit from it and you don't even realize the special bonuses that you get just from being male. When you are on the outside looking in then it comes to your attention more often but if you are on the inside looking out. You won't notice any difference.

I am able to recognize the privilege that I have as a male in the world. I have the potential to be paid more than women do performing the same tasks. Are you going to look at statistics and say that's bollocks?

It is hard to deny how patriarchal our society is.

I am to be fair, yeah. You can prove anything with statistics.

If this were really happening companies would just employ all the women for cheap and men would be unemployed. Dumb argument.

BTW there is evidence that women earn more than their male counterparts.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...rning-more-men

That's the Guardian by the way, so you can believe it.

Frownland 01-12-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1405269)
That's the Guardian by the way, so you can believe it.

:laughing:

djchameleon 01-12-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1405269)
I am to be fair, yeah. You can prove anything with statistics.

If this were really happening companies would just employ all the women for cheap and men would be unemployed. Dumb argument.

BTW there is evidence that women earn more than their male counterparts.

Young women are now earning more than men

That's the Guardian by the way, so you can believe it.

Actually it is not a dumb argument. Women still make 77 cents to every dollar that a man makes doing the same exact job. You know why they won't just employ all women for cheap and leave all the men unemployed it is because of that privilege you are denying. They don't feel like women could do the job as efficiently.

Also you said it yourself that you can prove anything with stats then you proceed to drop a link to back up your argument.

I can do the same and drop a link backing up my argument that says the opposite of yours.

Why women still earn less than men: It

also your article of from 2011 and mines is from 2013.

Cuthbert 01-12-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1405278)
Actually it is not a dumb argument. Women still make 77 cents to every dollar that a man makes doing the same exact job. You know why they won't just employ all women for cheap and leave all the men unemployed it is because of that privilege you are denying. They don't feel like women could do the job as efficiently.

From your own article:

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women working full-time earned about 77 cents for each dollar that a man earned
Says nothing about doing the same job, or did you just pluck that out of the air?

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Also you said it yourself that you can prove anything with stats then you proceed to drop a link to back up your argument.
I'm not posting it to back up my argument, I just posted that to prove you can prove anything with statistics. I'm not the one saying a gender is paid less for doing the exact same job. There is likely to be a logical and reasonable explanation as to why, if there is a difference.

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I can do the same and drop a link backing up my argument that says the opposite of yours.

Why women still earn less than men: It

also your article of from 2011 and mines is from 2013.
So what?

This argument reminds me of some of my mates, they say they get stopped and searched because they are black. I have not worked with the police but they are not as bad as people make out. Can be explained easily.

You live in Aston, it's like 10% white and a high crime area. If they get a call saying there's been a burglary, the suspect is a black male in a dark tracksuit, they see a black male in a dark tracksuit, they are obviously going to stop him. Now instead of giving his name he decides to get smart with them, so now they want to search him. This cunt could have been home in 5 minutes but instead he wants to stand on the side of the road arguing? He will now go off and say he got stopped because he is black lol. Which he was, but not in the way he thinks.

djchameleon 01-12-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1405282)
Says nothing about doing the same job, or did you just pluck that out of the air?

No, I didn't pluck it out of the air. I already post a video that stated that and I thought the article said the same thing but I didn't pull it out of thin air. I can get you the stupid youtube video that I've posted numerous times.

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1405282)
I'm not posting it to back up my argument, I just posted that to prove you can prove anything with statistics. I'm not the one saying a gender is paid less for doing the exact same job. There is likely to be a logical and reasonable explanation as to why, if there is a difference.

the only logical and reasonable explanation is that women don't have dicks.



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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1405282)
This argument reminds me of some of my mates, they say they get stopped and searched because they are black. I have not worked with the police but they are not as bad as people make out. Can be explained easily.

You live in Aston, it's like 10% white and a high crime area. If they get a call saying there's been a burglary, the suspect is a black male in a dark tracksuit, they see a black male in a dark tracksuit, they are obviously going to stop him. Now instead of giving his name he decides to get smart with them, so now they want to search him. This cunt could have been home in 5 minutes but instead he wants to stand on the side of the road arguing? He will now go off and say he got stopped because he is black lol. Which he was, but not in the way he thinks.

So it's okay to search any black male because they all look the same? That's basically what you are saying. The whole stop and frisk thing is such bull**** and racist.


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