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Anteater 08-21-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1989276)
I haven't advocated anything. Now put your dick away.

I need it to bash the fash with.

MicShazam 08-21-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1989284)
This is why I mentioned branding, since they're very rarely actually going after fascists in the US.

There's some very real political groups to oppose in Britain and Sweden, for example. I don't know in the US. The Alt Right are basically Nazi scum, but I don't think punching Richard Spencer accomplishes anything.

Frownland 08-21-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1989288)
There's some very real political groups to oppose in Britain and Sweden, for example. I don't know in the US. The Alt Right are basically Nazi scum, but I don't think punching Richard Spencer accomplishes anything.

Like I mentioned around the time of that event, I think it actually mobilizes support for people like Spencer.

MicShazam 08-21-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1989292)
Like I mentioned around the time of that event, I think it actually mobilizes support for people like Spencer.

It most definitely does. It gives some valid arguments to the opposition, so it's just a stupid tactical move. Along with being ethically questionable.

If fascism continues to rise, then there will be a time where some principles should be discarded in favor of putting in all bets on stopping a fascist movement. We're not there yet, but an eye should be kept on the rise of these movements. Especially here in Europe, there's some worrying political trends.

Frownland 08-21-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1989296)
it's nothing new for reactionaries to endlessly jerk themselves off over how crazy political agitators are by highlighting a silly minority and events that may or may not have even occurred

Duh. That's what led to the Holocaust.

The Batlord 08-21-2018 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1989299)
Duh. That's what led to the Holocaust.

Darwin's Law, bruh.

Frownland 08-21-2018 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1989301)
if you hold this position that all bets are off

But he didn't say that.

Key 08-21-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1989301)
if you hold this position that all bets are off when it comes to fascism I think it's easy to make the argument that it's already at our doorstep and thus certain actions of Antifa are justified

Isn't this what won Trump the election? Just in different context?

Key 08-21-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1989306)
genuinely

what?

The fact of just accepting something regardless of how bad it is.

Frownland 08-21-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1989306)
genuinely

what?

Tribal paranoia.


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