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OccultHawk 10-02-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2001889)
It's not about BK. It's about Trump failing to deliver on promises that got him into the WH.

"What are we going to build?"

A WALL!!!!!!

"And who's going to pay for it?"

MEXICO!!!!!!

"I'll repeal Obamacare my very first day in office!"

RABID CHEERS!!!!!

He’s true blue to the evangelical right...

OccultHawk 10-02-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 2001872)
Doesn't really have the right idea to it. Doesn't have the right name at the very least. Populism is just the idea that a politician is sucking the populace's cock. Fascism is specific to the fear that traditionalism is being threatened.

I still think populism is what contemporary fascism is called even as you define fascism

Frownland 10-02-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2001889)
It's not about BK. It's about Trump failing to deliver on promises that got him into the WH.

Trump's not up for re-election this year.

But you go ahead and have faith in partisan moral consistency.

Chula Vista 10-02-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2001894)
Trump's not up for re-election this year.

But you go ahead and have faith in partisan moral consistency.

No, but the GOP is.

And maybe quit the snark for once in your ****ing life? Never mind. You wouldn't be able to handle life without it.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140305232247

Frownland 10-02-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2001896)
No, but the GOP is

Ah, so they're gonna stick it to em! I admire your faith, Chula.

Take that as a no.

The Batlord 10-02-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2001893)
I still think populism is what contemporary fascism is called even as you define fascism

Yeah because populism in any context will always at least incorporate elements of fascism. Even populist socialism won't be able to succeed without populist fascist ideas. This is why the idea of socialism must be global, or else it's just fascism in disguise. I guess. I'm not a student of Chomsky but it seems reasonable to me that appealing to any kind of local sentiment must be nationalistic.

Chula Vista 10-02-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2001899)
Ah, so they're gonna stick it to em!

Not revenge. Apathy.

Frownland 10-02-2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2001913)
Not revenge. Apathy.

You're right. Everything is gonna be fine and dandy :cool:.

OccultHawk 10-02-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 2001903)
Yeah because populism in any context will always at least incorporate elements of fascism. Even populist socialism won't be able to succeed without populist fascist ideas. This is why the idea of socialism must be global, or else it's just fascism in disguise. I guess. I'm not a student of Chomsky but it seems reasonable to me that appealing to any kind of local sentiment must be nationalistic.

Edward O Wilson approaches it through Chomsky’s revolutionary theory in linguistics. Wilson explains the evolutionary changes that would have to take place and why it’s not totally impossible. While he’s at it he Wilson offers an alternative to Dawkins Selfish Gene theory.

It’s basically a matter of people who are predisposed to a certain manner of doing things being the ones that breed.

The Batlord 10-02-2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2001934)
Edward O Wilson approaches it through Chomsky’s revolutionary theory in linguistics. Wilson explains the evolutionary changes that would have to take place and why it’s not totally impossible. While he’s at it he Wilson offers an alternative to Dawkins Selfish Gene theory.

It’s basically a matter of people who are predisposed to a certain manner of doing things being the ones that breed.

So... anarchist fascism? I'm curious about a book you'd recommend.

TBH I'm feeling like an ******* for not reading Chomsky these days though so I gotta read some of that too. I'm feeling political in a way I haven't since I discarded libertarianism years ago and started avoiding politics as a matter of course. It's hard to completely lose faith in a political ideology and still have faith in your ability to interpret politics.


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