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Old 08-31-2018, 11:29 AM   #13521 (permalink)
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I hear humans living in the hollow Earth have an obesity problem cause they all weigh more than they do on the surface.
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Old 08-31-2018, 02:00 PM   #13522 (permalink)
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Trump sucks no matter what Hillary did, obviously. If she had won the presidential election, she'd probably be deserving of impeachment by now.
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:17 PM   #13523 (permalink)
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The Federalist? Really?



Has any politician ever been brought before more Senate and House committees, hell bent on finding something, anything, to charge them with, but yet time after time they come up empty and dragging their tails between their legs when all is said and done?

If someone is a crook - prove it. Otherwise STFU.
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:32 PM   #13524 (permalink)
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Just gonna bookmark this in case Mueller doesn't charge Trump with anything.
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:26 PM   #13525 (permalink)
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b-but, Hillary did it first!

It's allright. There's enough jail cells to go around.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:32 PM   #13526 (permalink)
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arent all politics opinions?
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Old 08-31-2018, 09:45 PM   #13527 (permalink)
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it's actually completely irrelevant what crimes have or have not been committed by Hillary Clinton
They ran for the same office and have both been accused of collusion (Trump directly with Russia, Clinton and the DNC with Ukraine and firms like Fusion GPS who used Russian sources). They are also both accused of money laundering. The public doesn't want a consistent standard that applies to everyone: they just want their side to win because its entertaining. Jonathan Haidt's observations on tribalism are my biggest reference point for how things are today, but what Clinton does isn't irrelevant. Just as Trump could set a precedent for allowable behavior, she is responsible for lowering the bar for a whole separate demographic.

The bigger problem, however, is that at the end of the day it doesn't really seem like these proceedings matter because nobody of real prominence go to jail for their wrongdoings. Pence will come out on top even if the Democrats get their way on everything else. Nixon and Clinton both got their fair share of the spotlight for their respective ****ups but still basically walked away with zero consequences.
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Old 09-01-2018, 03:53 AM   #13528 (permalink)
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Or maybe people complain more about Trump because he's currently in control of the whole nation. He's in a position to do massive harm, so he needs to be kept under sharp watch. The same should go for any president.
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:20 AM   #13529 (permalink)
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/01/eur...ntl/index.html

How surprising that many Germans don’t want to be annexed by Syria.
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:23 AM   #13530 (permalink)
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^ Thanks for posting this interesting story, OH. It must be very worrying for Angela Merkel - especially the knowledge that a similar incident could occur again at any moment.
Sorry if it sounds pedantic, but isn't there a distinction between a Syrian and Iraqui guy being suspected of murder and Syria annexing a town? I wonder if you can join the dots for us without recourse to far-right propaganda.

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You and a few others here also have a difficult time wrapping your minds around a very simple fact: if you want to put Trump away for something, it would be helpful if his political opposition weren't complicit in similar crimes.
^ I think I have successfully wrapped my head around your idea, Anteater, and in fact it's absolutely true. Unfortunately, as others have said, it's legally irrelevent.

Many of Trumps cries, allegations and promises have borne no fruit at all when tested in irl: "Lock her up","Obama is phone-tapping me", "Who will pay for the wall? Mexico!" If I were a Trump supporter, I'd be wondering by now why nothing has come of these claims; I might even make a comparison about investigations into the Clintons and investigations conducted by Mueller. If I then found this score card on line, I suspect my loyalty to Trump would be tested to breaking point :-



^ If these stats are true, 12 years of investigating the Clintons have found nothing worth indicting on. Mueller's investigation has come up with a bunch of legal liabilities after just a year. More importantly, Mueller's investigation is throwing light on the real and present danger of continued Russian meddling.

(My apologies for posting a photo that says, "Enough said" at the bottom. That's a very rude and arrogant way to contribute to a discussion imo.)
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