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windsock 11-08-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2013801)
With conservatism in general or the Republican party.

(btw not wanting to be "pinned down as a conservative" is defensive distancing)

I already told you a few of the right wing ideologies I align with. You can make of them what you will.

I don't want to be pinned down as a conservative because I'm not a conservative. I have never considered nor stated myself as such.

Frownland 11-08-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2013802)
I already told you a few of the right wing ideologies I align with. You can make of them what you will.

I don't want to be pinned down as a conservative because I'm not a conservative. I have never considered nor stated myself as such.

Care to restate those? You must have mentioned those during a conversation with someone else.

People make judgement calls through your actions. You're very defensive of conservatives and very critical of liberals. You start to notice trends after a while.

I'm not holding it against you btw, the weaseling is what I find contentious.

windsock 11-08-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2013793)
Well I believe gun control is more an issue of mental health than it is an issue of firearm distribution and I don't believe in (I misspoke here, I meant to say "skeptical of")universal health care. However I do believe marijuana should be decriminalized, gay marriage should be legal, and abortions (tentatively) and birth control should be available to women. I'm also against fracking

Those are just a few things I believe in.

In the time that I've been on here I have indeed criticized liberals. But I've only been here for two months. If you give me a loony conservative I'll happily criticize him but alas, there aren't that many of those here. You seem to have started this off with a "too early to tell" mindset and have shifted into the "definitely" mindset. I'd suggest sticking with the former because your badly aimed accusations of me believing in an ideology I don't believe in are ludicrous at best.

OccultHawk 11-08-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2013697)
My mind isn't made up on Hitler, because there is so much mis/disinformation that it is hard to know what to believe. There are several conspiracies and schools of thought that could be true. He was a bad guy, I do know that.

As far as him being a zionist puppet, it is possible. If it weren't for his actions, then the state of Israel wouldn't exist. Think about that.

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The Batlord 11-08-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2013807)
In the time that I've been on here I have indeed criticized liberals. But I've only been here for two months. If you give me a loony conservative I'll happily criticize him but alas, there aren't that many of those here. You seem to have started this off with a "too early to tell" mindset and have shifted into the "definitely" mindset. I'd suggest sticking with the former because your badly aimed accusations of me believing in an ideology I don't believe in are ludicrous at best.

Well your taking the Kavanaugh thing and asking why liberal politicians aren't similarly taken apart doesn't help. It reeks of "Why aren't your boys criticized like my boys are?"

The Batlord 11-08-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2013753)
66Sexy is a left-leaning jokester who can at least explore an idea.

I'm only left-leaning? I mean I think as a pretty hardcore anti-capitalist I think I'd qualify as very left-leaning, even if my specific ideology is a bit scattershot.

windsock 11-08-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 2013811)
Well you're taking the Kavanaugh thing and asking why liberal politicians aren't similarly taken apart doesn't help. It reeks of "Why aren't your boys criticized like my boys are?"

What I said was I was surprised that Bob Menendez didn't receive the Kavanaugh treatment especially seeing as the accusations against him were, in my opinion, worse. Ultimately I chalked it up to morality being partisan because **** like this happens all the time on both sides of the spectrum and many individuals get supported despite their terrible actions just because they have a D or an R next to their name.

The Batlord 11-08-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2013814)
What I said was I was surprised that Bob Menendez didn't receive the Kavanaugh treatment especially seeing as the accusations against him were, in my opinion, worse. Ultimately I chalked it up to morality being partisan because **** like this happens all the time on both sides of the spectrum and many individuals get supported despite their terrible actions.

Which is a pretty right-wing way to see the issue. Morality being partisan? What does that even mean? The media?

windsock 11-08-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 2013817)
Which is a pretty right-wing way to see the issue. Morality being partisan? What does that even mean? The media?

Lmao if it's a right-wing view than plenty of left-wing individuals on here are in fact right-wing. If anything what I'm criticizing is the culture that the two party system has created, wherein individuals can receive support and votes from people despite horrible accusations like having sex with minors levied at them simply because they align with the candidates party-wise. I don't know where you got the media part from.

windsock 11-08-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2013818)
your response to Merit was "hmm interesting tell me more"

My response to Merit was disagreeing with him and telling him that I didn't believe Hitler was a Zionist puppet and WWII was all to create the state of Israel. I'd still be interested in learning more about his point of view.

Elph, if you want to recommend me books or send me links about socialism being a good idea for the United States through my DMs I'd be happy to take a look at those as well. I'm not going to just sneer at people and not consider their opinions just because I disagree with them.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2013821)
interesting because you seemed ready to step up to bat for ole "I like Beer" Kav

You guys talk a lot about things "reeking of" or "seeming like" or "implying" other things, which only tells me that you've become so entrenched in your ideologies that you see things in people and speech that aren't really there.


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