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Old 01-19-2019, 11:57 AM   #16571 (permalink)
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we all know what it's about is conservatives just boil inside anytime anyone steps out of line

can't stand the sight of it
More like it's a dog whistle to white supremacists over the the Charlottesville incident probably to gain favor with Trump.
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:59 AM   #16572 (permalink)
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I tend to brush off a lot of right wing nonsense by making fun of it, but it's actually kinda scary. I'm convinced the next 5-10 years will see a considerable rise in fascist tendencies.

I don't see a sea change coming any time soon. We're gonna keep going in this **** direction for several more years. Same with Danish politics, even though it's not as unhinged as American politics. A left wing Danish politician recently caused a lot of controversy and backfire from other Danish politicians by warning of rising fascist political leanings (and an increasingly fascist view of humans and human rights) in Danish politics, but I think he's right to sound the alarm.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:02 PM   #16573 (permalink)
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As opposed to the last 5-10 years? ****
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:03 PM   #16574 (permalink)
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Thankfully the Nazis scared the **** out of the world so modern fascists have to be much more circumspect but yeah it's not so good right now.
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As opposed to the last 5-10 years? ****
Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I expect an escalation.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:21 PM   #16576 (permalink)
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I'd like to think the Western world is at least somewhat cognizant of what fascism is and what it means that no matter how bad it gets there is still a fascist glass ceiling where the public will eventually go, "Whoa whoa whoa this is actually starting to sound like some Hitler **** let's take a step back", so there's only so far this can go. At least I'd like to think so. But then I thought Trump could never get elected.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:27 PM   #16577 (permalink)
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Conservatives: Democracy is so fragile, guys, we really have to be careful that we're not doing things that can set us down the wrong path before it escalates to something uncontrollable.

Also conservatives: Come on guys, Trump doesn't really mean what he says and even if he did, our institutions are designed to keep him from turning our country into a fascist nightmare.

EDIT: Just for the sake of balance, the left contributed to Trump's power by letting Obama unreasonably expand the executive branch. Let's compromise and slaughter every single one of our politicians.
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I'd like to think the Western world is at least somewhat cognizant of what fascism is and what it means that no matter how bad it gets there is still a fascist glass ceiling where the public will eventually go, "Whoa whoa whoa this is actually starting to sound like some Hitler **** let's take a step back", so there's only so far this can go. At least I'd like to think so. But then I thought Trump could never get elected.
I guess I don't have that same positive attitude. I think well meaning people are easily led astray by scare mongering and easy answers to complex problems.

It's not like I've got some numbers to back up my pessimism. But it seems to me that Nationalism and fascism is seductive as hell and that "common folk" don't know better than to follow their whims. It's like there's all these progressive advances happening, but also a feeling that a lot of people aren't really on board and want to put the foot down and stop things from "going too far".

I don't know... The weirdos on the internet probably make things seem worse than they are, but I also don't think we should forget how easily Trump seduces people with basically a bunch of loud mouth nonsense.
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Conservatives: Democracy is so fragile, guys, we really have to be careful that we're not doing things that can set us down the wrong path before it escalates to something uncontrollable.

Also conservatives: Come on guys, Trump doesn't really mean what he says and even if he did, our institutions are designed to keep him from turning our country into a fascist nightmare.

EDIT: Just for the sake of balance, the left contributed to Trump's power by letting Obama unreasonably expand the executive branch. Let's compromise and slaughter every single one of our politicians.
1933... chilling.

EDIT: I missed your edit! Obama did many things wrong. I'm all for sharpening the guillotine and do it like the French did it.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:36 PM   #16580 (permalink)
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Gotta give props to OH for informing me on that Der Israelit editorial.
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