The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Anteater

I've read the Vox article covering the subject, and the Fox article and that article and at least three others covering the trip. They all corroborate and support my core point, with the biggest sticking point being the 100+ unnecessary corporate lobbyists who showed up to schmooze. If I was working for Facebook or Verizon instead of doing my own thing, I bet they would have sent me there too.

Yeah they're all scum but stop being a Trump bootlicker who criticizes Trump while supporting everything he actually does.

[Lisnaholic]

Originally Posted by rostasi

I see so many bizarre statements here and I try not to get involved correcting
them because, you know, it just doesn't work on people who are so tied to their
emotional involvements when it comes to finding "factual" info, but, just this once:

Snopes

^ Thank you for taking a moment to debunk one of Anteater's claims at least.

Me to Anteater: You seem to be grumbling that the Dems should show forebearance because Trump is so wayward. That's not the role of the opposition. Better to demand that the Republicans stop enabling the loose cannon that they have sacrificed their integrity to.

Originally Posted by Anteater

They should, because if they had done so then people would have gotten their paychecks earlier. All they needed to do was take Trump's offer in regards to DACA and tweak it in their favor.

Like I said, somebody has to be the adult in the room. What were they going to do if Trump decided to go beyond a month of keeping the government closed? They had no plan at all.

^ If you have a dictionary of political terms, you might care to look up words like "opposition" and "plan." That might help you realize that the Dem plan was to deny Trump's demand for $5.7 bn for an ineffectual border wall that approx 60% of Americans don't want. If your Plan A is good enough you don't need to use your Plan B, but how and why are you saying that the Dems didn't have one?

Pity America that it took Trump 34 days to realize what everybody else saw on Day Two: that his position on the shutdown was untenable.

[[MERIT]]

If it wasn't rostasi, MF'ers would get blasted for using Snopes as a reference LOL.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

Yeah they're all scum but stop being a Trump bootlicker who criticizes Trump while supporting everything he actually does.

Trump has been good for politics though, especially in regards to energizing our better political idealists. At least I get a better picture at what's going on beneath the surface. Before we needed a guy like Snowden to flee the country just to get a handle on just how many people's rights were being violated.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ Thank you for taking a moment to debunk one of Anteater's claims at least.

Except he didn't.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Anteater

Trump has been good for politics though, especially in regards to energizing our better political idealists. At least I get a better picture at what's going on beneath the surface. Before we needed a guy like Snowden to flee the country just to get a handle on just how many people's rights were being violated.

Nah you're just a bargain basement ****lord who uses being informed as a way to distract yourself from being entertained by all the political gossip.

[[MERIT]]

I want to talk about the situation in Venezuela. The. U.S. is backing a coup against President Nicolas Maduro. The U.S. is trying to install puppet Juan Guaido as President. Russia and Iran are intervening on behalf of Maduro. So we have a proxy war of USA vs Russia / Iran. The deep state will use this as an excuse for the U.S. to attack Iran and do the bidding of Israel. Fucking bullshit!

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

Nah you're just a bargain basement ****lord who uses being informed as a way to distract yourself from being entertained by all the political gossip.

Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses...

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

I want to talk about the situation in Venezuela. The. U.S. is backing a coup against President Nicolas Maduro. The U.S. is trying to install puppet Juan Guaido as President. Russia and Iran are intervening on behalf of Maduro. So we have a proxy war of USA vs Russia / Iran. The deep state will use this as an excuse for the U.S. to attack Iran and do the bidding of Israel. Fucking bullshit!

B-b-b-ut muh Russian colluzion!

[The Batlord]

The **** do I know about Venezuelan politics? It's their **** but Jesus Christ the rest of the world can get ****ed for having opinions on the matter. To be perfectly ****ing honest the Munroe Doctrine must die. China and Russia putting their noses into it is awful but reinforcing our Doctrine is just reinforcing 3rd party authoritarianism.

I don't know, maybe make a point in the UN of letting a sovereign nation decide their own fate without imperialist interference? I know that's a pipedream but **** supporting our own imperialism.

[Zhanteimi]

If Batty's saying what I think he's saying, then I agree. I can't tell, though, with all the ****ing asterisks.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

If Batty's saying what I think he's saying, then I agree. I can't tell, though, with all the ****ing asterisks.

I'm saying all the interfering countries can suck dick cause it's not their country. I know it's pointless to even say it cause America, China, and Russia are going to stick their dicks into everything that even smells like the Cold War but what the **** can you do but condemn it all unless you Swastika up and side with one of them?