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Old 12-16-2018, 12:03 PM   #16851 (permalink)
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trade school isn't free either

and some trades end up obsolete or oversaturated by the time you get out, as automation moves them from skilled to unskilled jobs

regardless the US is a service economy now and people will have to work oppressive service jobs

the answer is to remove education as the gate keeper to the things people ought to have a right to
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:04 PM   #16852 (permalink)
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I don't understand why we don't at least have some meaningful partnership with trade schools to get the kids who probably aren't going to college somewhere other than the service industry. That seems like a pretty basic ****ing idea.
Thereís probably more of this going on than you realize. The district I taught in has several ďacademiesĒ that focus on a trade (veterinarian assistant, auto and airplane mechanics, bank tellers -with $3 over the minimum wage guaranteed job for qualifying high school seniors)- and so on /// thereís also an alternative high school that teaches trades like auto body repair, plumbing, electrician work, carpentry /// but the actual trade schools / apprentice programs wonít **** with public schools because itís ridiculously hard to get rid of problematic students. Some dude whoís serious about learning culinary **** isnít going to put up with some high school pos talking over and even cussing out the instructor.

As it stands now high schools would be happy to teach anything but the structure of providing free child care in a commoncore curriculum obsessed environment makes it impossible to teach. Unless youíre in a really privileged situation youíll always have those 3-5 kids who destroy every lesson by constantly shouting profanity all the time. They donít want to learn a trade. They donít want to learn to count or read. They want to yell the words n*gger bitch and f uck over and over again. And when you try to get that element removed from your class itís hello Southern Poverty Law Center with the law suit because 90% of the kids who decimate the learning environment are black and somehow thatís your fault. So thanks to the SPLC instead of not educating 3-5 kids who refuse to be educated anyway nobody gets educated. And itís other black kids who want to learn who suffer the most because theyíre the ones stuck with those never stfu ****heads all day. Cue someone who hasnít been there telling me Iím wrong. The NAACP and SPLC have made it impossible to educate millions of black youth. Thatís a ****ing fact. Theyíd be better off under Ted Cruzís care.

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Old 12-16-2018, 01:09 PM   #16853 (permalink)
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i think there should be mandatory military service for 2 years in America
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Old 12-16-2018, 01:56 PM   #16855 (permalink)
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There’s probably more of this going on than you realize. The district I taught in has several “academies” that focus on a trade (veterinarian assistant, auto and airplane mechanics, bank tellers -with $3 over the minimum wage guaranteed job for qualifying high school seniors)- and so on /// there’s also an alternative high school that teaches trades like auto body repair, plumbing, electrician work, carpentry /// but the actual trade schools / apprentice programs won’t **** with public schools because it’s ridiculously hard to get rid of problematic students. Some dude who’s serious about learning culinary **** isn’t going to put up with some high school pos talking over and even cussing out the instructor.

As it stands now high schools would be happy to teach anything but the structure of providing free child care in a commoncore curriculum obsessed environment makes it impossible to teach. Unless you’re in a really privileged situation you’ll always have those 3-5 kids who destroy every lesson by constantly shouting profanity all the time. They don’t want to learn a trade. They don’t want to learn to count or read. They want to yell the words n*gger bitch and f uck over and over again. And when you try to get that element removed from your class it’s hello Southern Poverty Law Center with the law suit because 90% of the kids who decimate the learning environment are black and somehow that’s your fault. So thanks to the SPLC instead of not educating 3-5 kids who refuse to be educated anyway nobody gets educated. And it’s other black kids who want to learn who suffer the most because they’re the ones stuck with those never stfu ****heads all day. Cue someone who hasn’t been there telling me I’m wrong. The NAACP and SPLC have made it impossible to educate millions of black youth. That’s a ****ing fact. They’d be better off under Ted Cruz’s care.

I think you were just in a ****ty area cause that wasn't my experience at all, and I live in a pretty middle-of-the-road area in most respects. Kids didn't particularly care but they sat in their chairs more or less quietly waiting for the bell to ring.

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What was the racial make up of your typical class?
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Why not just encourage kids to stop thinking that college always has to be the next step? Or that college isn't a place to "find yourself" when it costs 20,000 USD a year to go there? Why not just be happy if your kid just wants to get a job instead of "the job".
I agree. And encourage trade schools as a viable option as well.

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remove education as the gate keeper to the things people ought to have a right to
While I'm all for UBI [it sounds like that is the direction that you are going?], I don't see how being uneducated can benefit people.

If you are a business owner and have a job position to fill, would you rather hire a college grad or a high school drop-out?

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I think you were just in a ****ty area cause that wasn't my experience at all, and I live in a pretty middle-of-the-road area in most respects. Kids didn't particularly care but they sat in their chairs more or less quietly waiting for the bell to ring.



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I agree. And encourage trade schools as a viable option as well.


While I'm all for UBI [it sounds like that is the direction that you are going?], I don't see how being uneducated can benefit people.

If you are a business owner and have a job position to fill, would you rather hire a college grad or a high school drop-out?


You stop talking that way right fucking now young man!!!



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We had plenty of lower to lower middle class negroes if that's what you're asking. If we had a class of thirty then somewhere between 5 to 10 of them might be black I guess.
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We had plenty of lower to lower middle class negroes if that's what you're asking. If we had a class of thirty then somewhere between 5 to 10 of them might be black I guess.
That’s low enough to keep the chimp outs pretty rare. It’s at the 80% plus poor black range when the anti-education sentiment hits critical mass.
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