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Old 07-24-2014, 12:30 PM   #1701 (permalink)
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To be fair we don't know that it is racism. We can assume, but there isn't anything in that video that you could say is racist.
Yeah you're right, I'm just ticked off. There was no justification to treat him like that. I just felt like they targeted him because of either conscious or subconscious bigotry, I might be wrong though.
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:25 AM   #1702 (permalink)
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:22 PM   #1703 (permalink)
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There were riots and deaths over a cartoon. This does not qualify as "I can't believe".
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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There were riots and deaths over a cartoon. This does not qualify as "I can't believe".
^ Is correct.

Remember though this is the Daily Mail, they are known for their agenda ridden articles.

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A rabbi was attacked by four Muslim teenagers outside a Jewish boarding school in Gateshead in one of the most serious incidents.
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Groups of Asian men chanted 'Heil Hitler’ as they drove through a Jewish area of Manchester, throwing missiles at passers-by.


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Carrying Palestinian flags and placards with slogans such as Stop the Killing and Free Palestine, the protesters chanted 'Israel is a terror state', 'Gaza don't you cry, we will never let you die' and 'Allahu Akbar' (god is great).
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In Germany an Imam reportedly called on Muslims to murder ‘Zionist Jews’
It's clear what they're trying to do with this.
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Remember though this is the Daily Mail, they are known for their agenda ridden articles.

It's clear what they're trying to do with this.
I couldn't remember which British paper was the bad one, but I was also dubious about how they were using phrases that were obviously said by one or two people and using it to paint an entire incident. Still, it doesn't sound good.
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There were riots and deaths over a cartoon. This does not qualify as "I can't believe".
Maybe for you it is, I certainly can't believe how horrible people can be to Jews still.
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Maybe for you it is, I certainly can't believe how horrible people can be to Jews still.
Well it's understandable that a lot of Muslims and non-Israeli middle-easterners would have issues with Israel, which would naturally transfer to Jews in general in many cases, and with the more extreme elements of Islam it's even less surprising that they might sympathize with the poster boys for Antisemitism. The scale of this (or so it appears from an American reading on the internet) is worrying, but not all that surprising given recent history.
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Well it's understandable that a lot of Muslims and non-Israeli middle-easterners would have issues with Israel, which would naturally transfer to Jews in general in many cases, and with the more extreme elements of Islam it's even less surprising that they might sympathize with the poster boys for Antisemitism. The scale of this (or so it appears from an American reading on the internet) is worrying, but not all that surprising given recent history.
I don't really hear about it where I am so don't really know much about the tension between Muslims and Jews. Thanks for the explanation batty.
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I don't really hear about it where I am so don't really know much about the tension between Muslims and Jews. Thanks for the explanation batty.
Well like I said, I live in 'Merica, where we have a relatively high number of Jews, but not a whole lot of Muslims, so we don't really get to see much in the way of tension between the two groups, even assuming there is any on our side of the pond. It's mostly the occasional European news feed and rumors that we have to go on. It's why I'm cautious to come down too much on either side of the argument about supposed issues with middle-eastern immigration to Europe. Still, when there are riots over a cartoon it doesn't exactly say that all the problems are in the "other side's" heads.
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