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Frownland 06-09-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060293)
Well respond to the other bit after watching the video then.

You want me to argue that the Trump supporter is a member of a defunct German political party?

Lucem Ferre 06-09-2019 09:28 AM

Nazi isn't supposed to be taken literal. It's more of a comparative thing that Frown already spelled out. The fascism, bigotry and propaganda of Trump and his supporters is supposedly on par with the Nazi party according to the assaulter. I don't get where you're getting lost on this. That you disagree and think it's hyperbole? Yeah. Probably. But hyperbole hasn't taken the meaning of these words.

Anteater 06-09-2019 09:45 AM

I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people. It's a form of ad hominem. No different than when right-wing people label anyone left of center as an SJW for standing up for minorities.

So these protestors acting unhinged, throwing **** at people, busting public property like ANTIFA tend to do in Portland and other areas, etc....it doesn't paint a picture that they're actually fighting fascism. Rather, it comes off like a violent projection of some kind when I don't see the guys in MAGA hats committing those same kinds of actions at that event on video.

Frownland 06-09-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2060297)
I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people.

I support Hitler, but don't be mad at me, I'm just a regular guy living my life.

OccultHawk 06-09-2019 10:02 AM

Just my guess but I suspect that that woman who was so swept up into her group that she started screaming NAZI in that dude’s face would have been just as enthusiastic to express her hatred for Jews if she had lived in Nazi Germany. I don’t know her personally but from that clip I doubt she’s contemplative enough to really think for herself. And if that old guy had been dragged off and thrown in the oven she’d be grinning ear to ear. She even goes racial at the end saying she doesn’t need to listen to another “white male”

A certain race shouldn’t be heard... hmmm...Where have I heard that before?

OccultHawk 06-09-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2060298)
I support Hitler, but don't be mad at me, I'm just a regular guy living my life.

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Exo 06-09-2019 10:09 AM

After watching Chernobyl, I came to the realization that pretty much all "leaders" give zero sh*ts about what real problems are. They instead, focus on how decisions affect them. Trump has been a absolute monster in this case.

Move on to the next monster. I'm tired of this one.

Frownland 06-09-2019 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by occulthawk (Post 2060299)
just my guess but i suspect that that woman who was so swept up into her group that she started screaming nazi in that dude’s face would have been just as enthusiastic to express her hatred for jews if she had lived in nazi germany. I don’t know her personally but from that clip i doubt she’s contemplative enough to really think for herself. And if that old guy had been dragged off and thrown in the oven she’d be grinning ear to ear. She even goes racial at the end saying she doesn’t need to listen to another “white male”

a certain race shouldn’t be heard... Hmmm...where have i heard that before?

100%

The Batlord 06-09-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2060297)
I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people. It's a form of ad hominem. No different than when right-wing people label anyone left of center as an SJW for standing up for minorities.

So these protestors acting unhinged, throwing **** at people, busting public property like ANTIFA tend to do in Portland and other areas, etc....it doesn't paint a picture that they're actually fighting fascism. Rather, it comes off like a violent projection of some kind when I don't see the guys in MAGA hats committing those same kinds of actions at that event on video.

I think it's silly to call most Trump supporters fascists but they're still somewhere on the spectrum of people who end up supporting and enabling fascists. Most people who voted for Hitler probably weren't imagining Auschwitz when they cast their ballot.

Anteater 06-09-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2060308)
I think it's silly to call most Trump supporters fascists but they're still somewhere on the spectrum of people who end up supporting and enabling fascists. Most people who voted for Hitler probably weren't imagining Auschwitz when they cast their ballot.

You pretty much enable fascism every time you spend your money at Wall-Mart, the supermarket or the gas station though. At least according to some of the standards I see being espoused 'round here.


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