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The Batlord 08-05-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2070426)
a watermelon can conduct an orchestra as long as they are playing 4'33"

:shycouch:

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2070431)
Why would it?

Why would a single-cell organism evolve into a sentient multi-cell organism that tap dances?

Frownland 08-05-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2070433)
Why would a single-cell organism evolve into a sentient multi-cell organism that tap dances?

Why wouldn't it?

OccultHawk 08-05-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2070435)
Why wouldn't it?

Because it lacked free will.

Frownland 08-05-2019 11:54 AM

Why would it?

OccultHawk 08-05-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2070438)
Why would it?

All we really know is it might.

jwb 08-05-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2070427)
What would be the technological benefit of programming autonomy into AI? That's not something that I really see occurring out of nowhere.

autonomy seems like an emergent property, rather than a specific function you design for. If you make something intelligent enough, then autonomy comes with the territory. And futurists who are talking about the singularity and AGI are specifically aspiring towards such a creation.

Frownland 08-05-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2070442)
If you make something intelligent enough, then autonomy comes with the territory.

It's definitely common but I disagree with the notion that this is inherent. The biological separation makes emergent behaviours as you describe them to be less likely of an outcome imo. The sexbot doesn't actually have a sex drive (there's a good pun there that I can't quite stitch together), it's just mimicking human behaviour. The application of that mimicry using AGI is a far more realistic threat than AGI posing an existential threat to to the human race for its own self preservation.

jwb 08-05-2019 01:04 PM

Autonomy is something that emerges as a property long before the kind of Intelligence that humans have. Ants are basically autonomous. Current AI is basically autonomous. Its decision making skills will only increase the more advanced you make it. And AGI by definition would be every bit as capable and adaptive in its decision making skills as a human being - or else it wouldn't qualify as AGI.

The Batlord 08-05-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2070443)
It's definitely common but I disagree with the notion that this is inherent. The biological separation makes emergent behaviours as you describe them to be less likely of an outcome imo. The sexbot doesn't actually have a sex drive (there's a good pun there that I can't quite stitch together), it's just mimicking human behaviour. The application of that mimicry using AGI is a far more realistic threat than AGI posing an existential threat to to the human race for its own self preservation.

Is a male love bot's sex drive its hard drive?

Frownland 08-05-2019 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2070445)
Autonomy is something that emerges as a property long before the kind of Intelligence that humans have. Ants are basically autonomous. Current AI is basically autonomous. Its decision making skills will only increase the more advanced you make it. And AGI by definition would be every bit as capable and adaptive in its decision making skills as a human being - or else it wouldn't qualify as AGI.

What about in terms of personal autonomy?


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