The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

The Batlord · 08-05-2019, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

a watermelon can conduct an orchestra as long as they are playing 4'33"

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Why would it?

Why would a single-cell organism evolve into a sentient multi-cell organism that tap dances?

**Frownland** · 08-05-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

Why would a single-cell organism evolve into a sentient multi-cell organism that tap dances?

Why wouldn't it?

OccultHawk · 08-05-2019, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Why wouldn't it?

Because it lacked free will.

**Frownland** · 08-05-2019, 11:54 AM

Why would it?

OccultHawk · 08-05-2019, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Why would it?

All we really know is it might.

~~jwb~~ · 08-05-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What would be the technological benefit of programming autonomy into AI? That's not something that I really see occurring out of nowhere.

autonomy seems like an emergent property, rather than a specific function you design for. If you make something intelligent enough, then autonomy comes with the territory. And futurists who are talking about the singularity and AGI are specifically aspiring towards such a creation.

**Frownland** · 08-05-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

If you make something intelligent enough, then autonomy comes with the territory.

It's definitely common but I disagree with the notion that this is inherent. The biological separation makes emergent behaviours as you describe them to be less likely of an outcome imo. The sexbot doesn't actually have a sex drive (there's a good pun there that I can't quite stitch together), it's just mimicking human behaviour. The application of that mimicry using AGI is a far more realistic threat than AGI posing an existential threat to to the human race for its own self preservation.

~~jwb~~ · 08-05-2019, 01:04 PM

Autonomy is something that emerges as a property long before the kind of Intelligence that humans have. Ants are basically autonomous. Current AI is basically autonomous. Its decision making skills will only increase the more advanced you make it. And AGI by definition would be every bit as capable and adaptive in its decision making skills as a human being - or else it wouldn't qualify as AGI.

The Batlord · 08-05-2019, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's definitely common but I disagree with the notion that this is inherent. The biological separation makes emergent behaviours as you describe them to be less likely of an outcome imo. The sexbot doesn't actually have a sex drive (there's a good pun there that I can't quite stitch together), it's just mimicking human behaviour. The application of that mimicry using AGI is a far more realistic threat than AGI posing an existential threat to to the human race for its own self preservation.

Is a male love bot's sex drive its hard drive?

**Frownland** · 08-05-2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Autonomy is something that emerges as a property long before the kind of Intelligence that humans have. Ants are basically autonomous. Current AI is basically autonomous. Its decision making skills will only increase the more advanced you make it. And AGI by definition would be every bit as capable and adaptive in its decision making skills as a human being - or else it wouldn't qualify as AGI.

What about in terms of personal autonomy?

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Autonomy is something that emerges as a property long before the kind of Intelligence that humans have. Ants are basically autonomous. Current AI is basically autonomous. Its decision making skills will only increase the more advanced you make it. And AGI by definition would be every bit as capable and adaptive in its decision making skills as a human being - or else it wouldn't qualify as AGI.