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Old 11-22-2014, 07:07 PM   #1881 (permalink)
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In real life, I know two Muslims and they're both good people.

But when I watch the news it's hard not conclude that Islam has a little extra nasty running through it.
The news only reports bad sh*t, it's not hard to draw that conclusion about anything when you watch it.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:12 PM   #1882 (permalink)
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This just in, Muslim woman prays five times a day and gives half her paycheck to the poor. Now here's Tom with the weather.

Ja the bad stuff is more interesting.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:12 PM   #1883 (permalink)
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I think that's just a product of the times and culture similar to the slavery verses in the Bible. Not enough to call the Quran a hateful scripture IMO. Next.
Well that's OK then.


Tommy Robinson calls BBC Asian Network and responds to critics. 01/10/2014 - YouTube

17 mins in. Muslims phoning in and admitting the Qur'an needs to be reworded. Do you know more about Islam than they do?

22 mins for the second lad.

"Certain verses in the Qur'an, you cannot justify them"
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:20 PM   #1884 (permalink)
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:21 PM   #1885 (permalink)
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Well that's OK then.


Tommy Robinson calls BBC Asian Network and responds to critics. 01/10/2014 - YouTube

17 mins in. Muslims phoning in and admitting the Qur'an needs to be reworded. Do you know more about Islam than they do?

22 mins for the second lad.

"Certain verses in the Qur'an, you cannot justify them"
When did I say that I knew more about Islam than devout Muslims? And by that logic Muslims can't be wrong or misguided about the Quran? I agree that some verses are unjustified and could use rewording as well as there being issues with Islamic culture as we see it today run by extremists. But I think people forget that Islam is largely about love, sacrifice, and brotherhood by focusing on outsated verses such as that one. I'm not trying to be an apologist because there are certain verses that could lead followers to bad actions but I think it's a widely misunderstood religion because of those verses and people missing the bigger picture.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:40 PM   #1886 (permalink)
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When did I say that I knew more about Islam than devout Muslims? And by that logic Muslims can't be wrong or misguided about the Quran? I agree that some verses are unjustified and could use rewording as well as there being issues with Islamic culture as we see it today run by extremists. But I think people forget that Islam is largely about love, sacrifice, and brotherhood by focusing on outsated verses such as that one. I'm not trying to be an apologist because there are certain verses that could lead followers to bad actions but I think it's a widely misunderstood religion because of those verses and people missing the bigger picture.
It's hateful scripture. Sweet victory.

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Islam is largely about love, sacrifice, and brotherhood by focusing on outsated verses such as that one.
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And then claim things like that. Have you actually read the Qur'an?

I was going to convert in 2011, can confirm I have visited a gurdwara and am now looking at Sikhi.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:49 PM   #1887 (permalink)
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It's hateful scripture. Sweet victory.



I don't know why you object to me saying things like this:



And then claim things like that. Have you actually read the Qur'an?

I was going to convert in 2011, can confirm I have visited a gurdwara and am now looking at Sikhi.
Because those are select verses that aren't about the big picture of what the Quran paints, that's why. It's like saying Obamas entire career is focused on immigration reform but that's really only a small part of it. I've read the first six chapters of the Quran, but I'll be taking an Islam course next semester so I imagine I'll be reading more.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:53 PM   #1888 (permalink)
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All religions and cultures are not created equal, regardless of what anyone tries to spoonfeed you.
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:09 PM   #1889 (permalink)
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All religions and cultures are not created equal, regardless of what anyone tries to spoonfeed you.
Yeah. I mean people don't want to face it but that is the simple truth.
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This just in, Muslim woman prays five times a day and gives half her paycheck to the poor. Now here's Tom with the weather.

Ja the bad stuff is more interesting.
thats why i love vice news
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