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Frownland 11-05-2019 07:46 AM

Lucem and elphenor: morality shouldn't be solely dictated by societal norms

Jwb: if morality exists outside of society then show us the one true moral code that cures all ills across the globe or you're wrong

Lucem Ferre 11-05-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2087805)
Is there some sort of end point, or does the philosophical circle jerk just keep going and going?

In plain and simple terms, what are each of your main points?

20 words MAX.
GO!

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2087729)
Nah, I view morality as what harms or helps.

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I don't think you actually followed the conversation.

Now it's just people trying to challenge it with stupid scenarios.

Chula Vista 11-05-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2087808)
I don't think you actually followed the conversation.

Oh, I have. I have the headache to prove it.
I'm just waiting for one of you to have a Frank Ricard slam dunk so it'll be over.

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Lucem Ferre 11-05-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2087815)
Oh, I have. I have the headache to prove it.
I'm just waiting for one of you to have a Frank Ricard slam dunk so it'll be over.

https://img.wonderhowto.com/img/91/3...bate.w1456.jpg

It's not going to be an epic game winning slam dunk. It's just going to be running out the clock and preventing the other team from scoring while I'm in the lead.

Chula Vista 11-05-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2087817)
It's not going to be an epic game winning slam dunk. It's just going to be running out the clock and preventing the other team from scoring while I'm in the lead.

Ahhhhh. It'll be more fun following now that I know your strategy.

Linda and I are both rooting for you!

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jwb 11-05-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2087802)

If the homeless person didn't want to die then it's going to be immoral. It's not your choice to make and thinking you have that authority is immoral. If the homeless person wants to endure their suffering let them. If the homeless person wants to end it I assume they have all the ability to do that them self.

I agree and that's basically my point. There is something to morality more than just causing the least amount of suffering.

jwb 11-05-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2087807)
Lucem and elphenor: morality shouldn't be solely dictated by societal norms

Jwb: if morality exists outside of society then show us the one true moral code that cures all ills across the globe or you're wrong

...I didn't say there was.

Frownland 11-05-2019 10:29 AM

It's almost like my post was an intentionally facetious misreading of the discussion.

Lucem Ferre 11-05-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2087834)
I agree and that's basically my point. There is something to morality more than just causing the least amount of suffering.

That choice would be harmful though. Maybe suffering is as complicated as morality. Maybe the complications of human suffering is why morality is complicated.

jwb 11-05-2019 10:38 AM

Why is it harmful if it leads to less suffering?


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