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James 11-24-2014 07:36 PM

Disgusting. Sorry to 90% of the members here but the way your country works continues to baffle me.

Soulflower 11-24-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1512613)
Martin wasn't given a choice. His gf testified that Martin said, "Why are following me?" then the phone cut off. I think Zimmerman slapped the phone out of Martin's hand to provoke a fight he knew he was going to win. He and Martin scuffled and then Zimmerman pulled a gun. Martin screamed for help but it was too late for him. His fate was sealed the instant Zimmerman laid eyes on him. It wasn't just a homicide, it was first degree murder.


Praise God thank you..... I am tired of this forum making it seem like its just me.

BLACK PEOPLE ARE IN TROUBLE especially black males.

Soulflower 11-24-2014 07:38 PM

America is called home of the free aka "The Freeland"

but in America a white man can get away with killing a black teenager.

In American a police or law enforcement figure can get away with murdering a young black teen

This is the home of the free?

This is the home of EQUALITY for all?

BULL****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Wilkes Booth 11-24-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1512613)
Martin wasn't given a choice. His gf testified that Martin said, "Why are following me?" then the phone cut off. I think Zimmerman slapped the phone out of Martin's hand to provoke a fight he knew he was going to win. He and Martin scuffled and then Zimmerman pulled a gun. Martin screamed for help but it was too late for him. His fate was sealed the instant Zimmerman laid eyes on him. It wasn't just a homicide, it was first degree murder.

from what i remember trayvon was beating the **** out of zimmerman when he shot him. so basically yea even turning around and confronting your stalker verbally is really the wrong way to go about it. keep going and see if they do anything. if they do then you have the right to defend yourself. you don't have to seek out that confrontation. but even if you do seek it out and then you get in a fight, you don't need to sit there beating his ass. that's not self defense that's just fighting. usually it'll get you assault charges. in this case it got him shot which is self defense since really you can get beat to death pretty easily. again, i acknowledge zimmerman brought the ass beating on himself but the way the law works what he did was still technically legal regardless of race or anything else.

Cuthbert 11-24-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1512616)
Disgusting. Sorry to 90% of the members here but the way your country works continues to baffle me.

Are you on about guns here?

Soulflower 11-24-2014 07:42 PM

Zimmerman should have went to jail and This cop should have been indicted...period.

John Wilkes Booth 11-24-2014 07:44 PM

i don't think he should have went to jail for murder to be honest cause his defense never cited stand your ground it was just basic self defense. being an *******/stalker doesn't negate your right to self defense. i do think though if i was in charge i would take away his 2nd amendment rights cause he seems like the wrong type to have a gun to me.

Soulflower 11-24-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1512629)
i don't think he should have went to jail for murder to be honest cause his defense never cited stand your ground it was just basic self defense. being an *******/stalker doesn't negate your right to self defense. i do think though if i was in charge i would take away his 2nd amendment rights cause he seems like the wrong type to have a gun to me.

But how is getting out the car instigating an altercation self defense?

He instigated that altercation with Trayvon Martin.


He obviously wanted to fight him, so how was that self defense?

James 11-24-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1512625)
Are you on about guns here?

Well, yeah I suppose. Would have stopped this all in its tracks if there weren't any guns. I feel this verdict really highlights a great number of issues though.

John Wilkes Booth 11-24-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1512632)
But how is getting out the car instigating an altercation self defense?

He instigated that altercation with Trayvon Martin.


He obviously wanted to fight him, so how was that self defense?

he instigated an altercation but there is a difference between instigating and getting physical. it is legal to be a stalkerish *******. not recommended and not good manners, but legal.


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