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Old 12-27-2014, 03:16 PM   #2171 (permalink)
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Ask a doctor.
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Old 12-27-2014, 04:35 PM   #2172 (permalink)
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Doctors aren't always right anyway, some of them are cunts and wouldn't think twice to write 'cunt' on the inside of your lung.

I got whacked in the head playing rugby, felt a sharp pain in my ears (both) and got cauliflower ear, went to the doctors on four occasions and just got prescribed antibiotics every time. After the first course I did some research on the internets because it wasn't going away, I realised what it was and asked the doctor to just insert a syringe and drain the fluid.

They said it was an infection and just gave me more antibiotics, cream etc, mother Benteke is a nurse and got me a box of syringes so I just continuously drained the fluid out every day myself but by this point the fluid had started to calcify and I needed surgery because there was a massive amount of scar tissue.


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Wow ! The problem you had, the mistreatment and the consequences all sound pretty grim, CB, but the point you make is a good one - doctors aren´t infallible, as I also know from personal experience.

Chula´s ex-brother-in-law notwithstanding, in the debate about circumcision, I don´t think the stats about improved higiene are convincing. The supposed health benefits just aren´t significant enough to justify such drastic irreversible surgery.
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:25 PM   #2173 (permalink)
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My brother-in-law -- same problems. He and his wife have/had infections, too.
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:44 PM   #2174 (permalink)
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Fourth Jewish baby this year treated for herpes after controversial Orthodox circumsicion method | Daily Mail Online

I'm aware of this practice, but why this not illegal yet (circumcision that is, not the Jewish practice, but obviously that as well)
This article is not about the practice of circumcision, it's about highly unsanitary method of said orthodox ritual. Two different arguments entirely.
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:48 PM   #2175 (permalink)
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This article is not about the practice of circumcision, it's about highly unsanitary method of said orthodox ritual. Two different arguments entirely.
Bingo. Under normal conditions, circumcision is a very safe procedure.
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:54 PM   #2176 (permalink)
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The way doctors circumcise: good, safe.

The way the Jews in this story circumcise: bad, unsafe.
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Old 12-27-2014, 06:52 PM   #2177 (permalink)
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I´m equally sorry about your brother-in-law´s experience, mordwyr, but the health argument cuts both ways, if you´ll excuse the expression.

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... but perhaps it´s more relevant to ask someone who has lived with the consequences of circumcision:-
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...one such organization distributed questionnaires to circumcised men. The complaints included prominent scarring (33%), insufficient penile skin for comfortable erection (27%), erectile curvature from uneven skin loss (16%), and pain and bleeding upon erection/manipulation (17%). Psychological complaints included feelings of mutilation (60%), low self-esteem/inferiority to "intact" men (50%), genital dysmorphia (55%), rage (52%), resentment/depression (59%), violation (46%), or parental betrayal (30%). Many respondents reported that their physical/emotional suffering impeded emotional intimacy with their partner(s), resulting in sexual dysfunction. Prominent men known to be unhappy about being circumcised include Sigmund Freud, A E Houseman, W.H. Auden, Geoffrey Keynes and his brother John Maynard Keynes, the famous economist. In 1996 the British Medical Journal published a letter by 20 men saying that "we have been harmed by circumcision in childhood"; they argued that "it cannot be ethical for a doctor to amputate normal tissue from a normal child". Dr. Benjamin Spock (1903 – 1998), whose Baby and Child Care is the biggest selling American single-author book in history, originally supported circumcision but changed his mind near the end of his life.
...which is perhaps why:-

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On June 26, 2012, a court in Cologne, Germany ruled that circumcision was "inflicting bodily harm on boys too young to consent", deciding that the practice contravenes the "interests of the child to decide later in life on his religious beliefs".
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This article is not about the practice of circumcision, it's about highly unsanitary method of said orthodox ritual. Two different arguments entirely.
I know it isn't, I know it is, I know they are. I just threw that bit in to start some discussion.
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Old 12-27-2014, 06:58 PM   #2179 (permalink)
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Well, my penis is fine, healthy, and beautiful -- and I've been circumcised. And my boy's is fine, too. I guess one should choose one's doctor wisely by reputation. Doctors botch other surgeries sometimes, too, but no one calls for their banning.
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Well, my penis is fine, healthy, and beautiful -- and I've been circumcised. And my boy's is fine, too. I guess one should choose one's doctor wisely by reputation. Doctors botch other surgeries sometimes, too, but no one calls for their banning.
You're missing the point. It's fine for you but it's not fine for that lad I posted and for many other men.

You don't think people should be allowed the choice to decide?
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