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Old 08-08-2022, 10:37 PM   #23401 (permalink)
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Old 08-08-2022, 11:04 PM   #23402 (permalink)
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Sigh. With the Republican party cozying up to Victor Orban, a fascist who seized power through soft power bureaucratic machinations I should think the Dems would see the republicans as an actual threat and not just as opposition, but even with this I don't have any faith they're taking that threat seriously. Even if they arrest Trump they'll probably just pin everything on him and try to pretend everything's fine. Give me some god damn mass arrests already.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 08-08-2022, 11:46 PM   #23403 (permalink)
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**** you are asking for way too much lol

I am sitting here not wanting to take the bait into actually believing they might actually indict Trump.... I mean we have sat here and watched attempt after attempt to pin something on him only to fail again and again... But an FBI raid feels more real than anything else thus far
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Old 08-09-2022, 12:38 AM   #23404 (permalink)
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Bitch we have a party that is clearly trying to subvert democracy by using the state legislatures and electoral college to make it impossible for the democrats to win anything meaningful while also at best hedging their bets on maybe supporting a coup if it worked out, and the Dems are still acting like **** is chill but just a bit hectic? Now I don't expect them to do a damn thing meaning ful but if they had a lick of sense they'd recognize the obvious and coup them right back cause time is of the essence.
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Old 08-09-2022, 12:42 AM   #23405 (permalink)
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Coup them back how?
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Old 08-09-2022, 12:48 AM   #23406 (permalink)
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They have the presidency and the DOJ and evidence that plenty of the opposition were in league with the coup. Arrest them. Try them. Put them in jail. And if that sounds authoritarian well then **** it they're reacting to actual creeping authoritarianism they might just have the last chance to do something about.
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I mean I get the impulse but that could also easily lead to like a civil war or something close to that. It's a high risk move if you did it effectively enough to cripple the Republican party. Almost certainly what the Dems are going to do instead is try to maintain the leverage it currently grants them and not squander that by overreaching. They're ironically very conservative in how they seem to approach political power.

I'm curious cause I haven't followed Jan 6 very close... What other members of the GOP do you think they have a credible enough criminal case against?
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Old 08-09-2022, 01:04 AM   #23408 (permalink)
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I mean I don't remember all the **** but multiple people had some dodgy connection or kept voting for the election being fake. I mean the supporting the fake election **** was clearly an attempt to subvert democracy so that should be a basis all by itself for arrests and on some level that would cover a lot of ****ing Republicans. Like I'm not saying we should only arrest people implicated in provable crimes. This was an explicit attempt to subvert an election by a party looking to subvert even more elections. Extreme prejudice is warranted.
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Yeah that was what I was asking. Cause you might just get away with punishing all your political enemies if they had actual crimes but to do so on some sorta half assed RICO type logic is going to be transparently political and would almost certainly end badly

Also it doesn't make any sense to frame that sorta thing as protecting democracy... You can't possibly be so naive as to expect them to somehow revert back to having democracy after breaking with basic due process norms in the service of taking out their only real political rivals/obstacles.
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Old 08-09-2022, 01:57 AM   #23410 (permalink)
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What are you some kinda dumb bitch? These libs ain't gonna do any of that ****. But...

1. You seem to think people will unite to fight against authoritarianism even though your entire political beliefs are about the opposite.

2. The gubment is the gubment. They'll fight the left no matter what, I'd just like for them to fight the right
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