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Lucem Ferre 04-17-2020 01:45 PM

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Neapolitan 04-17-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2113149)
Calling it a vacation might be the most he's ever offended me

He's saying Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and what he calls the "Do Nothing" Democrats are on "vacation," it wasn't aimed at any one else who is quarantined.

The Batlord 04-17-2020 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2113097)

The **** is that dweeb on about? Were people trying to shoot the infected and now Virginia is outlawing guns?

Anteater 04-17-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2113168)

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Lucem Ferre 04-17-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2113174)
The **** is that dweeb on about? Were people trying to shoot the infected and now Virginia is outlawing guns?

Remember a few days ago when Trump said he was going to have these states open back up because he has total authority? This is him throwing a tantrum because he doesn't actually have that authority. It seems it's a call to violence.

Lucem Ferre 04-17-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2113175)

Propaganda! Lies and propaganda!

Edit: BTW, you do a much better Trump than me.

Anteater 04-17-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2113178)
Propaganda! Lies and propaganda!

Edit: BTW, you do a much better Trump than me.

I forgot that there was a free thing out there to make Trump tweets. Thanks for reminding me. :laughing:

WWWP 04-17-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2113176)
Remember a few days ago when Trump said he was going to have these states open back up because he has total authority? This is him throwing a tantrum because he doesn't actually have that authority. It seems it's a call to violence.

I liked when he was asked what kind of tactics he would use to confront whatever crisis and he pointed to his head and said "THESE tactics."

The Batlord 04-17-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2113181)
I forgot that there was a free thing out there to make Trump tweets. Thanks for reminding me. :laughing:

I've had it bookmarked for three years.

Lucem Ferre 04-17-2020 02:28 PM

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Lucem Ferre 04-17-2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2113183)
I liked when he was asked what kind of tactics he would use to confront whatever crisis and he pointed to his head and said "THESE tactics."

LOL I didn't see that part.

OccultHawk 04-17-2020 02:38 PM

These are hilarious

jwb 04-17-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2113183)
I liked when he was asked what kind of tactics he would use to confront whatever crisis and he pointed to his head and said "THESE tactics."

would've been better if he grabbed his crotch

OccultHawk 04-17-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2113190)
would've been better if he grabbed his crotch

lolololololol

He would so have my loyalty forever if he did that.

The Batlord 04-17-2020 02:44 PM

"These tacDICKS"

WWWP 04-17-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2113190)
would've been better if he grabbed his crotch

Lol x3

OccultHawk 04-23-2020 05:59 AM

Mitch McConnell said he supports allowing states to declare bankruptcy.

I looked at several articles and didn’t get a clear answer to my first question which is: Would that mean they wouldn’t have to be pay pensions for state workers? Several articles mention pensions but none said directly bankruptcy could be used to not have to pay pensions.

I know that corporations have filed bankruptcy and never paid promised pensions even after they became solvent again. Some auto-workers who worked for 30 plus years never got their pensions. I’m sure that caused plenty of suicides.

Psy-Fi 04-23-2020 04:57 PM

Bin Laden wanted to kill Obama because he thought Joe Biden was totally unprepared to be president and would 'plunge the US into a crisis'

OccultHawk 04-23-2020 05:36 PM

Man if he’s in Muslim Heaven he’s laughing his ass off.

OccultHawk 04-23-2020 05:59 PM

Vietnam hasn’t had a single death.

They closed school in Jan.

They have a one party Leninist communist government.

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This month Hanoi expedited the shipment to the U.S. of nearly half a million protective medical suits manufactured at a DuPont factory in Vietnam, earning a thank-you tweet from President Trump.
LA Times


I’ve been there. You can read whatever you want. You can listen to jazz records all day if you want.

“But it’s not a democracy - we’re free - we can vote”

The Batlord 04-23-2020 06:16 PM

Corona has been spreading slowly in the tropics in general.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ies-2020-03-17

OccultHawk 04-23-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2114233)
Corona has been spreading slowly in the tropics in general.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ies-2020-03-17

Yeah. I’ve been following that. Never thought I’d say this but bring on that Florida sun son if it’s true and it’s starting to look like it might be - it might be mutated strains of the virus

It might have something to do with living in apartments and recirculated air

Maybes and mights

OccultHawk 04-23-2020 06:37 PM

Many viruses are unstable in heat

That’s why you run fevers

OccultHawk 04-23-2020 06:39 PM

tbh I didn’t totally discount the guy at the Florida somewhere city council who said use a hairdryer to heat up your nose

Totally unscientific but so is pretty much everything else so far

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2114231)
Vietnam hasn’t had a single death.

They closed school in Jan.

They have a one party Leninist communist government.



LA Times


I’ve been there. You can read whatever you want. You can listen to jazz records all day if you want.

“But it’s not a democracy - we’re free - we can vote”

Aren't they actually socialist? Like, they're Marxist so they believe they need to become socialist before becoming communist so just like China they plan on being communist but aren't really communist yet?

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2114276)
I think I've just accepted that communism has one use that just means some kind of command economy with at least an appearance of social welfare

and then the actual Marxist definition that's just for bookish leftist to jerk off with, as it exists nowhere, but is actually correct

China's party doesn't believe it's communist, it believes (in theory) that China is the state that's meant to usher in communism

Yeah, they know what they are but every other idiot doesn't so when they call themselves communist every atrocity the enact gets pinned on communism.

It's cherry picking propaganda nonsense. Every problem you've gotten from "communist" governments is the same problems you get with any authoritarian dictatorship. So common sense should tell you that it's not the economic platform that causes the problems but the authoritarianism. People tend to lack common sense, though.

OccultHawk 04-24-2020 05:15 AM

Idk tbh

Just from my observations that were a long time ago and don’t mean **** anyway because I was just a tourist but it didn’t appear to have the crushing poverty of places like India or the United States. As far as how much what happens in practice aligns with their official policy - probably not that much really. China felt a lot more aggressive and regimented to me. And from what I saw in China very brutal poverty was quite prevalent.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2114282)
Idk tbh

Just from my observations that were a long time ago and don’t mean **** anyway because I was just a tourist but it didn’t appear to have the crushing poverty of places like India or the United States. As far as how much what happens in practice aligns with their official policy - probably not that much really. China felt a lot more aggressive and regimented to me. And from what I saw in China very brutal poverty was quite prevalent.

From what I read their economy has been going through rapid growth but they still lack a lot of resources. Despite that they have been lifting more and more people out of poverty in their country. So as a whole the country isn't as rich as most first world countries but their people aren't facing the same kind of poverty as most first world countries.

OccultHawk 04-24-2020 11:45 AM

Man. When I google pictures of what it looks like now compared to when I was there it’s insane.

This may seem pretty modest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ydbk-Y8gaa0/hqdefault.jpg

But there was no modern architecture when I was there.

I am so old.

The Batlord 04-24-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2114317)
I am so old.

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Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 11:53 AM

I'm waiting for there to be some kind of catch as to why Vietnam is evil or something.

The Batlord 04-24-2020 11:56 AM

I mean they're a small enough country that it's possible they manage to... install(?) leaders who aren't ****bags.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 11:58 AM

From what I read it seems fairly fascist there. Like, neighbors are snitches. They have a culture of snitching.

OccultHawk 04-24-2020 12:22 PM

Where have you read this stuff?

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2114328)
Where have you read this stuff?

Internets.

The snitching thing was from articles talking about why Vietnam doesn't have any covid deaths. The others were from Wikipedia because I was curious as to why a socialist country isn't brought up a lot by socialists to argue in favor of it or from people that would use it as an example of the evils of socialism/communism.

Edit: I also read that they made anybody spreading misinformation about the virus pay a fine.

jwb 04-24-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2114276)
I think I've just accepted that communism has one use that just means some kind of command economy with at least an appearance of social welfare

and then the actual Marxist definition that's just for bookish leftist to jerk off with, as it exists nowhere, but is actually correct

China's party doesn't believe it's communist, it believes (in theory) that China is the state that's meant to usher in communism

literally every "communist" state has been stuck permanently in the "transition" stage... Starts to make it seem like the method of transition simply doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2114322)
I'm waiting for there to be some kind of catch as to why Vietnam is evil or something.

I mean it's the pretty standard "catch" you find with these beacons of hope... Severe crackdown on human rights... Any of the **** you guys post about our govt would warrant the death penalty there if it were directed towards the party.

The Batlord 04-24-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2114335)
Starts to make it seem like the method of transition simply doesn't work.

I mean duh. The one thing democracy gives you is that your government has to pander to you to SOME extent even if they're gaslighting you into voting for all sorts of nonsense that isn't to your benefit. They might get you to vote for payouts to corporations cause what's best for business is best for the people, but secret police committing extra judicial killings is a much harder sell if your country isn't in chaos and you just want order at any cost. It's still a devil's bargain but all government is a devil's bargain anyway. Probably actually best to build a cabin in the deep woods and hunt rabbits while talking to a volleyball.

jwb 04-24-2020 01:06 PM

I agree... I think that's exactly why every major communist country has been poor and politically chaotic prior to the revolution... People in well functioning 1st world democracies are far too complacent to gamble on that sort of thing.

This has also been shown to be true just with communist or socialist parties in Western countries... The more liberal the ruling regime is, the less radical their major socialist parties are. This makes them more likely to compromise with the regime and thus less likely for the revolution to ever happen.

Anteater 04-24-2020 01:51 PM

It's almost as if it is human nature to embrace conveniences (like their favorite drink at Starbucks, running water, functioning city services, etc.) as opposed to embracing higher risk and participating in political activities that will most certainly destroy those conveniences.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 01:53 PM

Ahh, so you and bat agree that humans are complacent selfish monkey people or something. You know the **** Bat says.


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