The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Frownland]

Frownland's talking points:

*yes, I saw where you revealed yourself to be blinded to any kind of dissenting opinion by nostalgia
*if I come across as smart then the joke's on you
*yes, nationalism is a symptom of autism. We may define the word differently though.
*nah I'm just an ******* without trying but that really has nothing to do with this convo's legitimacy so stop trying to skirt the issue with ad hominem attacks
*naivete is not a wise alternative to cynicism

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Also, **** ***. You are the most pretensious ******* **** I've ever met online. Congratulations.

You did not look hard at all then.

Originally Posted by Frownland

Wait, how does that contradict parades and nationalism sucking?

Still waiting...

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Sorry you missed it. What part of Mass? Although small, an extremely diverse state.

South shore, though my family is mostly from Boston, the immediate vicinity, and the north shore.

Honestly, I wouldn't describe it as "an extremely diverse state". There are certainly less diverse states out there (read: Vermont) but Massachusetts really isn't particularly diverse.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The whole faux Irish thing is total bull****. Irish people think they're idiots.

This.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I'm going to be 100% serious for a bit.

I grew up in the Merrimack Valley in northeast Mass. I have very vivid memories from the late 60s and early 70s of St. Patrick's day. That entire area was made up of immigrants, or decendants of immigrants from mostly Italian, Irish, and French Canadian heritage. By then, the three cultures had spent enough time working and living together that there were really no lines anymore.

Every St. Patrick's day a bunch of the grown-ups would organize a huge dinner at a local American Legion hall. Between adults and kids we're talking upwards of a hundred people all celebrating together. The wives all manned the kitchen and corned beef and cabbage with carrots and potatoes overflowed.

Gallons of beer, great music, dancing, way too much second hand cigarette smoke, and eventually, the alpha males trying to one up each other with boilermakers (drop a shot of whiskey into a beer and then chug it) would end the night and somehow we'd end up home and safe instead of wrapped around a telephone pole.

It was as big as Christmas, Thanksgiving, and Easter.

Snark all you want, but it was a really big thing. There's still some of that left to this day.

If you try really hard you're almost like a retarded Steinbeck.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Did you really not get what I tried to put across with a genuine experience from actually being there a few decades ago when the traditions were being established?

Are you of the opinion that pride in Nationalism 100% sucks? If no, we can keep the discussion going. If yes, I'm out.

You come across sometimes as smart. Other times you come across as naive and prone to snark talking points instead of sound logic. You always just want to argue for the sake of aguing, without actually considering the dissenting opinion.

Again, Being an ******* just for being an ******** sake.

(you planning on growing up and shedding your pretensious, cynical, pompous, arrogant, and dissmissive persona anytime soon so that you can actually engage in grownup debates?)



Also, **** ***. You are the most pretensious ******* **** I've ever met online. Congratulations.

Which one is that?

[Ol’ Qwerty Bastard]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Irish neighborhood pride is cool. So is French Canadian pride.

not really. for the most part it's obnoxious and unnecessary. try going anywhere in quebec (except for montreal) and speaking french and then watch how they treat if you attempt to speak english.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Which one is that?

Frownland, of course.

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

not really. for the most part it's obnoxious and unnecessary. try going anywhere in quebec (except for montreal) and speaking french and then watch how they treat if you attempt to speak english.

French Canadian in the area where I grew up. Quebec is well known for being dickish towards anyone who's not a native.

[Ol’ Qwerty Bastard]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Quebec is well known for being dickish towards anyone who's not a native.

tru and it's because of their overbearing nationalism. it might not always suck but it seems to me that a good 90+ % of the time nationalism is stupid.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

tru and it's because of their overbearing nationalism. it might not always suck but it seems to me that a good 90+ % of the time nationalism is stupid.

Wrong. Nationalism is always 100% stupid because you have zero control over where you fall out of your momma's vagina. That's not to say that nationalism never created some cool festivities or wars, but the concept itself is just idiotic to me.

What's the ~10% of nationalism you think is alright?

[Chula Vista]

Cool thing about Merrimack Valley is that there's hardly anyone who's native to the area. Most everyone I knew growing up had grandparents who were immigrants from either Canada or Europe. So there was this cool melting pot kind of vibe.