The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

And those were mostly isolated cases. The exception does not disprove the rule.

Studying cultures that are isolated from the influence of other cultures is the best way to determine if a trait is nurture or nature.

[OccultHawk]

there is nothing the oligarchy loathes more than democracy

The oligarchy loves democracy because they keep their power and have a claim to legitimacy that people almost universally buy into. But I ain't buying it.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

You could always shoot your kids in the head and spare them all this bull****. It's what a good father would do.

Too bad your father, along with Frowny's, and others didn't think of this 20-30 years ago. The world would certainly be a better place in the here and now.

Originally Posted by elphenor

apathy aint the cure it's the disease

But is sure makes for a really pretty soap box, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by elphenor

I think your dislike towards democracy is basically exactly what the ruling class wants, not consciously, but by its design of obtaining more wealth and power for itself via corrupting democratic institutions

Yup. Bat, Frowny, Ori, and Hawk are exactly the demographic that the rich and powerful love exploiting. You guys' are feeding the machine 10X more than I am. Oh, the irony.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

We're still apes who want to be led by a strong beast who brooks no dissent.

Poetic, but pretty ****ing stupid, and adds zero to the issue we're currently dealing with. But I'm sure you felt really good typing it.

Originally Posted by grindy

Yeah, people are dumb, overrated monkeys.

Shame on you!

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Poetic, but pretty ****ing stupid, and adds zero to the issue we're currently dealing with. But I'm sure you felt really good typing it.

You, of all people, should NEVER use that term :ifiusealaughingemojitheywontknowimmad:

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Studying cultures that are isolated from the influence of other cultures is the best way to determine if a trait is nurture or nature.

Indeed, but it doesn't disprove thousands of years of nurture that has reinforced the rule. I totally think that if we survive the next thousand years everything may very well work itself out, but this is not the next thousand years so I'm not holding my breath.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The oligarchy loves democracy because they keep their power and have a claim to legitimacy that people almost universally buy into. But I ain't buying it.

Yeah totally. Most of democracy has been an exercise in the establishment hoodwinking the populace into believing they matter, at least more than they actually do.

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Too bad your father, along with Frowny's, and others didn't think of this 20-30 years ago. The world would certainly be a better place in the here and now.

Too bad your parents were so traditional (nobody cares that your mother is a lesbian). Or else there might be one less working class Irish cretin.

Originally Posted by elphenor

Egyptians are not exactly an isolated incident

Way to go back thousands of years to find a civilization of note that had a woman leader. Was there even a woman pharaoh besides Nefertiti? Regardless, at least 99% of human history ****s on your supposition. You know full well that this is true, unless you want to start repping MRA nonsense. And Nefertiti still never held a vote of any sort for the populace I'm assuming.

Humans are simply the smartest dumb animals.

[Frownland]

Cleopatra.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Cleopatra.

Two female Egyptian pharoahs. Man, that disproves the rule. There's a reason those two are so famous. Cause they were a historical oddity. And one who presumably allowed for any kind of input from the populace?

[Frownland]

Don't ask questions if you can't handle the truth, sunshine.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Was there even a woman pharaoh besides Nefertiti?

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Don't ask questions if you can't handle the truth, sunshine.

It's still an idiotic point to make within thousands of years of male tyrants, and a scattered few female tyrants. The sex of the tyrant is honestly not important except to point out the pattern of humanity's tyrant obsession.

I mean the rise of the executive branch shows this. The American public could give a modicum of a **** about a group of representatives when they can instead turn to what they hope will be an impressive strongman president who'll be willing to act unilaterally. When the best presidents in history are decided they are not decided by those who performed the office in the way that it was created, but those who did the most, in the same way that the "greatest" dictators are judged.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's still an idiotic point to make within thousands of years of male tyrants, and a scattered few female tyrants. The sex of the tyrant is honestly not important except to point out the pattern of humanity's tyrant obsession.

I mean the rise of the executive branch shows this. The American public could give a modicum of a **** about a group of representatives when they can instead turn to what they hope will be an impressive strongman president. When the best presidents in history are decided they are not decided by those who performed the office in the way that it was created, but those who did the most, in the same way that the "greatest" dictators are judged.

Take it up with elph homie.

I will say that most of those tyrants were products of a world where they understood the tyrant as an acceptable form of government. If we found that isolated cultures that deflect the idea of a predisposition towards tyrants, we can determine that it's something that's driven by culture, which effects how we would approach it if we wanted to move away from it.