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Trollheart 10-13-2017 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1882866)
Is it really stealing if it no longer has a recipient? Fraud is a better choice.

Yes it is. It's money that's due his mother for her old age. She is now dead, so not entitled to the money, nor is anyone else entitled to collect it on her behalf. It's the same as if you're on the dole (receiving social security, I guess you'd call it) and then you get a job and don't sign off, so you collect money you're not due. It is stealing. I guess it's also fraud, but then fraud usually involves a form of stealing anyway, so I guess that's splitting hairs.
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Even if you think that it's amoral, I fail to see how it can be disrespectful to their memory. Unless that person was someone who made every little thing about themselves, at which point I'm not sure if I'd want to respect their memory anyways.
Because my mother brought me up not to steal, especially from her goddamn corpse, man! How is that so hard to understand? If I did that, my ma would turn in her grave. Jesus. Have you no morals?

Frownland 10-13-2017 05:29 PM

I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, I just don't really give a **** about what he did tbh. At least the money's being put to some kind of use. *shrug*

Regarding the loved ones memory thing, I just don't see how it has anything to do with them. Are people who knew her going to look back at her and think poorly of her now? I don't get this whole preservation thing, it's not as if he's denounced her.

Trollheart 10-13-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1882913)
I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, I just don't really give a **** about what he did tbh. *shrug*

Regarding the loved ones memory thing, I just don't see how it has anything to do with them. Are people who knew her going to look back at her and think poorly of her now? I don't get this whole preservation thing, it's not as if he's denounced her.

Like I say, if you don't understand or get it I can't help you, but I would never do anything that I know my ma would not approve of, alive or dead. That's what I mean by keeping her memory. You live your life in the way you hope your parents (well, in my case, one only) would want you to, and you try to hope that they would be proud of you. Karen has a picture of her and my ma on her desk, and often I look at it and think "I hope you'd approve of how I'm looking after her, ma, and are proud of me". So I'm sentimental. Sue me.

It's also probably an "Irish mammy" thing. You just do NOT disrespect the memory of your mam. Father, maybe; not so bad. But mammy? Never.

Frownland 10-13-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1882915)
Like I say, if you don't understand or get it I can't help you, but I would never do anything that I know my ma would not approve of, alive or dead. That's what I mean by keeping her memory. You live your life in the way you hope your parents (well, in my case, one only) would want you to, and you try to hope that they would be proud of you.

Nah that explains your stance well enough. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree that the actions of the living affects that person's memory. I preserve people's memories by remembering them at their best, because that's what they offered.

Trollheart 10-13-2017 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1882919)
Nah that explains your stance well enough. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree that the actions of the living affects that person's memory. I preserve people's memories by remembering them at their best, because that's what they offered.

Yeah, agree to disagree. I disagree. I mean, I agree. Let's move on.

OccultHawk 10-13-2017 06:12 PM

besides fear of getting caught I can't comprehend why in the world anyone would turn down free money

WTF people?

my mama didn't raise no fool

why dishonor her memory by being poorer than necessary?

The Batlord 10-13-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1882931)
besides fear of getting caught I can't comprehend why in the world anyone would turn down free money

WTF people?

my mama didn't raise no fool

why dishonor her memory by being poorer than necessary?

Honestly I just wouldn't want to deal with a warrant. It's gonna have to be a damn good check for that.

Paul Smeenus 10-14-2017 05:40 AM


Zhanteimi 10-14-2017 07:31 AM

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Trollheart 10-14-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1883010)
Eh...she was a whore anyway.

No, no. We've moved on from Kesha, Mord...


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