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Old 10-13-2017, 04:49 PM   #7731 (permalink)
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It's stealing, dude.
Is it really stealing if it no longer has a recipient? Fraud is a better choice.

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You either have morals or you don't. Your mother either brought you up right or she didn't. If you don't get it, I can't help you. It's all about a thing called respecting the memory of your departed loved ones.
Even if you think that it's amoral, I fail to see how it can be disrespectful to their memory. Unless that person was someone who made every little thing about themselves, at which point I'm not sure if I'd want to respect their memory anyways.
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:59 PM   #7732 (permalink)
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Not saying I would do it, cause I'm a puss who'd feel bad, but if the politicians who run our government steal from the public coffers then it sounds like fair play to do the same. Otherwise you're working at a disadvantage.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:22 PM   #7733 (permalink)
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Is it really stealing if it no longer has a recipient? Fraud is a better choice.
Yes it is. It's money that's due his mother for her old age. She is now dead, so not entitled to the money, nor is anyone else entitled to collect it on her behalf. It's the same as if you're on the dole (receiving social security, I guess you'd call it) and then you get a job and don't sign off, so you collect money you're not due. It is stealing. I guess it's also fraud, but then fraud usually involves a form of stealing anyway, so I guess that's splitting hairs.
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Even if you think that it's amoral, I fail to see how it can be disrespectful to their memory. Unless that person was someone who made every little thing about themselves, at which point I'm not sure if I'd want to respect their memory anyways.
Because my mother brought me up not to steal, especially from her goddamn corpse, man! How is that so hard to understand? If I did that, my ma would turn in her grave. Jesus. Have you no morals?
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:29 PM   #7734 (permalink)
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I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, I just don't really give a **** about what he did tbh. At least the money's being put to some kind of use. *shrug*

Regarding the loved ones memory thing, I just don't see how it has anything to do with them. Are people who knew her going to look back at her and think poorly of her now? I don't get this whole preservation thing, it's not as if he's denounced her.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:32 PM   #7735 (permalink)
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I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, I just don't really give a **** about what he did tbh. *shrug*

Regarding the loved ones memory thing, I just don't see how it has anything to do with them. Are people who knew her going to look back at her and think poorly of her now? I don't get this whole preservation thing, it's not as if he's denounced her.
Like I say, if you don't understand or get it I can't help you, but I would never do anything that I know my ma would not approve of, alive or dead. That's what I mean by keeping her memory. You live your life in the way you hope your parents (well, in my case, one only) would want you to, and you try to hope that they would be proud of you. Karen has a picture of her and my ma on her desk, and often I look at it and think "I hope you'd approve of how I'm looking after her, ma, and are proud of me". So I'm sentimental. Sue me.

It's also probably an "Irish mammy" thing. You just do NOT disrespect the memory of your mam. Father, maybe; not so bad. But mammy? Never.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:39 PM   #7736 (permalink)
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Like I say, if you don't understand or get it I can't help you, but I would never do anything that I know my ma would not approve of, alive or dead. That's what I mean by keeping her memory. You live your life in the way you hope your parents (well, in my case, one only) would want you to, and you try to hope that they would be proud of you.
Nah that explains your stance well enough. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree that the actions of the living affects that person's memory. I preserve people's memories by remembering them at their best, because that's what they offered.
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Nah that explains your stance well enough. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree that the actions of the living affects that person's memory. I preserve people's memories by remembering them at their best, because that's what they offered.
Yeah, agree to disagree. I disagree. I mean, I agree. Let's move on.
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besides fear of getting caught I can't comprehend why in the world anyone would turn down free money

WTF people?

my mama didn't raise no fool

why dishonor her memory by being poorer than necessary?
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besides fear of getting caught I can't comprehend why in the world anyone would turn down free money

WTF people?

my mama didn't raise no fool

why dishonor her memory by being poorer than necessary?
Honestly I just wouldn't want to deal with a warrant. It's gonna have to be a damn good check for that.
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