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The Batlord 11-01-2017 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1889685)
if anything the dems ought to support BLM openly in addition to class warfare

this non story is not what's sinking them and they shouldn't back down on social issues

dems problem is they either won't or can't name the enemy because they gotta raise that $$$ too

Hey if they want to grow some balls then damn the torpedoes, but so long as they're seen as Wall Street stooges who occasionally talk about vaguely progressive things like they're white collar schmucks at the water cooler then nobody is going to respect them for it and they're just going to make themselves look like upper class fops playing at being real liberals.

Frownland 11-01-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1889696)
wut

he did do something like that he was insensitive to blm protesters early in the race (they interrupted one of his speeches) and it cost him

Ja he gave them the mic. What a dick move.

Frownland 11-01-2017 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1889709)
you don't remember the scandal over this?

it was nonsense but Clinton milked it big time

you wouldn't want to feed that fire

I suppose not. The only BLM thing I remember about Bernie is when they stormed the stage and he gave them a platform to voice their opinions as they requested.

Frownland 11-01-2017 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1889723)
yes he adjusted how he dealt with the situation much to his benefit

Can you link me to this scandal? I genuinely only remember him handling it as I described.

OccultHawk 11-01-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1889698)
Liberals are not selling a vision where only self interest matters

to back away from principles to appeal to self interests will undermine the entire platform

liberalism can suck my dick

I don’t give a **** what the left does. I’m fine with the right speeding up the destruction of this nightmare. Countries all over the world consider the Chinese government morally superior to America. Good, flush this ****hole down the toilet. Thank you Donald.

The Republicans know that when it comes to getting elected Black Lives Don’t Matter. White Votes Matter. USA! Democracy forever!

[MERIT] 11-02-2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1889806)
USA! Democracy forever!

Constitutionally-limited democracy in the form of a republic.

[MERIT] 11-02-2017 01:17 AM

3 Killed In Colorado Walmart Shooting

OccultHawk 11-02-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1889811)
Constitutionally-limited democracy in the form of a republic.

Gee. Thanks for the civics lesson.

Cuthbert 11-02-2017 09:46 AM

Antifa going on the rampage on Nov 4th?

rubber soul 11-02-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1889866)
I understand the sentiment though you should remember democracy didn't really bring The Donald

And the argument was what should dems do or not do and I don't think the answer is to abandon principle to pander to white voters


That's pretty much true sadly. Neither the Democrats or Republicans seem to be true believers in democracy anymore. Hilary Clinton muscled her way to the Democratic nomination and probably would have had it in 2008 if Obama hadn't been so captivating. I'm not saying Bernie Sanders would have won in a fair fight (he probably wouldn't have)but it did seem odd that candidates who would have blown her candidacy out of the water like Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden wouldn't run against her. The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if the Clintons had something on them.

The Republicans have been cynically courting the white vote since George Bush the elder in 1988 and what a surprise that it blew up in their face. Thus we were left with what the guys at South Park affectionately said was a choice between a douchebag and a turd sandwich. The only good thing about Trump's election is that it ended the career of little Miss Ambition. As horrified as I was about the result, there was a certain satisfaction of seeing Hilary practically sobbing with her self-serving plans being foiled.

And you're right about the second part too, Elph. If you truly believe in democracy, you shouldn't have to pander to anybody, Democrat, Republican, or otherwise


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