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Frownland 12-27-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1909016)
You just proved my point. Say there is a gay person being discriminated against. That discrimination is legal.

Here's a surface level observation for you: the right to infringe on other people's rights? How do ya wrap your head around that one?

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Just because they don't appreciate that discrimination, they think that their lifestyle is in danger of being taken away.
Talk about a slippery slope. If we allow people the right to create second class citizens for pointless reasons out of someone's control, they can take that to the point of deciding that they don't deserve to live. You know what they say, give them implicit oppression and they'll take a genocide.

Frownland 12-27-2017 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1909018)
How anyone feels about discrimination is irrelevant. People should have the right, regardless. As long as they are not physically harming someone else.

Like starving them?

Maajo 12-27-2017 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1909018)
How anyone feels about discrimination is irrelevant. People should have the right, regardless.


Yes, it is.

Well isn't that ****in' enlightening.

Maajo 12-27-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909020)
Like starving them?

Especially then. Come on, what's free expression if you can't get away with a little death by starvation. That's maximum freedom right there.

OccultHawk 12-27-2017 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909017)
I'm back on the ticket if you'll have me.

You were never off, were you?

#ChulaHawkNewYearsTeam

[MERIT] 12-27-2017 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909019)
the right to infringe on other people's rights? How do ya wrap your head around that one?

It's not infringement. If you don't like me, should I petition the government to force you to bake me a cake against your will? The baker would be the one whose rights are being infringed upon.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909019)
If we allow people the right to create second class citizens for pointless reasons out of someone's control

Like children not being able to vote or drive or buy cigarettes or alcohol? I'm not advocating for this, but they are being discriminated against because of their age, which is out of their control.

OccultHawk 12-27-2017 09:51 PM

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Like children not being able to vote or drive or buy cigarettes or alcohol? I'm not advocating for this, but they are being discriminated against because of their age, which is out of their control.
I don’t think there should be age requirements for this stuff.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Childhood

This book gives an interesting perspective.

Frownland 12-27-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1909025)
It's not infringement. If you don't like me, should I petition the government to force you to bake me a cake against your will? The baker would be the one whose rights are being infringed upon.

If I'm selling cakes to people as a business, then yes I have to sell you a cake if you're a reasonable paying customer who happened to be in my store whilst gay. You want to bitch about infringement from the government? That's nothing compared to the atrocities that can be committed against minorities if we "let the market balance itself out." People's tendency to be idiots is the reason that the government came into the picture in the first place.

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Like children not being able to vote or drive or buy cigarettes or alcohol? I'm not advocating for this, but they are being discriminated against because of their age, which is out of their control.
I can show you some very well established research on the difference between a child an adult's mind if you like. Did you check out that false equivalency link btw?

Chula Vista 12-27-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1909018)
People should have the right, regardless. As long as they are not physically harming someone else.

So in your world there's good discrimination and bad discrimination?

Man. Look up equal rights.

[MERIT] 12-27-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909031)
If I'm selling cakes to people as a business, then yes I have to sell you a cake if you're a reasonable paying customer who happened to be in my store

But you SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THINGS AGAINST YOUR WILL. That's the point! No matter the reason!

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1909031)
false equivalency link btw?

Keep saying that phrase. It's bound to pay off eventually.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1909032)
So in your world there's good discrimination and bad discrimination?

There is a difference between physically harming someone and refusing to bake them a cake. Get a clue.


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