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The Batlord 02-15-2018 02:56 PM

This will never end until America stops seeing the middle class as an ideal, but as a cultureless disease that offers human beings nothing but sterile consumerism. I mean taking away the guns might stop the killing, but that's just a band-aid for the underlying existential nightmare.

OccultHawk 02-15-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1926773)
Interesting, Florida ranks 30th in guns per capita. Connecticut (Sandy Hook) is 25th. Colorado (Aurora) 20th. Illinois (Chicago) is 35th, California 40th, and New York is 50th.

Wyoming has 19.2 times more guns per capita than Florida yet only averages 1.4 times more gun related murders.

So is the issue the number of guns?

Every mass shooter had at least one gun.

OccultHawk 02-15-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1926776)
This will never end until America stops seeing the middle class as an ideal, but as a cultureless disease that offers human beings nothing but sterile consumerism. I mean taking away the guns might stop the killing, but that's just a band-aid for the underlying existential nightmare.

Church

Trollheart 02-15-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1926778)
Church

And that's another problem: religion.

The Batlord 02-15-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1926782)
other developed countries have a middle class similar to ours

are Americans really that much more violent than Australians for instance

probably not, Australia cracked down hard on guns though

Is their middle class particularly happier than ours though? If we gave them guns would they shoot each other? At least the lower classes in this country shoot each other over money and influence. That at least offers a potential tangible gain.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-15-2018 03:32 PM

imo americans are just retarded

nothing to do with guns

you're just all ****in' stupid

DwnWthVwls 02-15-2018 03:39 PM

I blame social media for all of this.

Chula Vista 02-15-2018 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1926775)
Wyoming has a much smaller and spread out population. Booooo bad stats

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1926777)
Every mass shooter had at least one gun.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1926780)
compare the populations of Florida and Wyoming Chula

Wyoming has 4 cities with populations larger than Parkland FL, Newtown CT, and Columbine, CO.

There's 33.6 times more people in Florida than Wyoming, yet Florida only has 1.8 times more guns.

Not trying to make a point. Just adding some numbers to the mix that seem to contradict the "more guns = more mass shootings" narrative.

Frownland 02-15-2018 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1926798)
Wyoming has 4 cities with populations larger than Parkland FL, Newtown CT, and Columbine, CO.

Florida has 20 (est.)

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There's 33.6 times more people in Florida than Wyoming, yet Florida only has 1.8 times more guns.
Florida has far more urban centres where people are grouped more closely together. Does CNN have any stats comparing Wyoming and Florida's average amount of guns per gun owner?

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Not trying to make a point. Just adding some numbers to the mix that seem to contradict the "more guns = more mass shootings" narrative.
Do better. Do you have any numbers on what happens when you introduce devices that can exclusively be used to maim or kill into a society?

Chula Vista 02-15-2018 04:26 PM

More stats from the FBI and other sources.

https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/...-c-default.png

https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/...-c-default.png


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