My mans Obamar, if it weren't for guns I wouldn't get to see world star videos of rappers beating down and ripping AK47s from pussy ass kids' hands.
The Batlord
02-22-2018 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista
(Post 1928559)
Lack of empathy 101.
You do, however, understand why most find it comforting and reassuring?
Especially those directly affected?
Because people are stupid enough to think that politicians mean what they say?
Chula Vista
02-22-2018 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
(Post 1928588)
Because people are stupid enough to think that politicians mean what they say?
Because people who've just had their hearts and souls ripped out will take any shoulder offered to cry on. And the POTUS is a big ****ing shoulder.
Sincerity is not the point.
The Batlord
02-22-2018 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista
(Post 1928593)
Because people who've just had their hearts and souls ripped out will take any shoulder offered to cry on. And the POTUS is a big ****ing shoulder.
Sincerity is not the point.
Honestly I've never heard from anyone being "comforted" by a president, but I kind of doubt they really care. Except for the stupid people.
rubber soul
02-22-2018 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by elphenor
(Post 1928534)
the other thing I heard is we gotta bring God back into school
the right in this country subconsciously wants to be Saudi Arabia
That's not true. Cutting someone's arm off in the name of Jesus is so much better than cutting someone's arm off in the name of Allah.
Lisnaholic
02-22-2018 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
(Post 1928598)
Honestly I've never heard from anyone being "comforted" by a president, but I kind of doubt they really care. Except for the stupid people.
^ Actually, they turn up all the time on tv, hugging the President and such, or at a minimum thanking the Pres for his words. They're not necessarily stupid, tbh. I think it's connected to how different people have different emotional attitudes to leaders, patriotism, grief etc.
Of course, some politicos have more genuine empathy than others, so even in moments of grief, I'd recommend that people be careful about who they hug:-
the other thing I heard is we gotta bring God back into school
the right in this country subconsciously wants to be Saudi Arabia
Surely by now we've taught God all he needs to know?
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Originally Posted by Frownland
(Post 1928562)
Oh great, another post sloppily hammered onto a keyboard through a tear-blurred lens.
Obviously, Chula. I'm not as stupid as you assume I must be for having the gall to disagree with you. Just because it can be beneficial to some doesn't mean that it's a necessary function of the president.
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista
(Post 1928565)
But it is and has been for a long time. Goes with the job title.
I actually agree with Frown. The point about the president comforting people is that the tragedy can usually be traced back to being his fault. A war, a policy, a lack of policy, a shut-down of an industry ... when it's your fault, directly or indirectly, saying sorry seems a total dick move and surely can't comfort anyone.
Sorry we didn't fix those levees and your family drowned.
Sorry we had to send your dad to his death in a pointless war.
Sorry your sister died at the hands of a rapist our system paroled or didn't jail for long enough
Sorry
Sorry
Sorry
We're so sorry.
****. That. ****.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
(Post 1928567)
In times of great national tragedy our elected leaders should demonstrate solidarity with the fallen by publicly committing suicide.
#VoteHawk2020
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Originally Posted by elphenor
(Post 1928569)
to be fair Obama did indeed try to do something about it
He committed suicide?
rubber soul
02-22-2018 05:22 AM
I guess it depends on the President. Someone like Reagan or Obama tended to come off as genuine while someone like Clinton maybe you wondered if he was pandering for votes. I don't know who was sincere or not with the possible exception of Trump who's an absolute nitwit who doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. Anyway, I like to think that most of the Presidents (even Clinton) meant well when they offered sympathies.
Trollheart
02-22-2018 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rubber soul
(Post 1928624)
I guess it depends on the President. Someone like Reagan or Obama tended to come off as genuine while someone like Clinton maybe you wondered if he was pandering for votes. I don't know who was sincere or not with the possible exception of Trump who's an absolute nitwit who doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. Anyway, I like to think that most of the Presidents (even Clinton) meant well when they offered sympathies.
I'm not saying they didn't (at least, some of them) but when you're a part of the problem then apologising and sympathising with the victims/families seems very disingenuous to me. Look at it this way: you kill someone because you're drunk while driving. You go to the funeral, apologise to the family. You're genuinely contrite and sincere. Do you think your words comfort them, or are they instead thinking "if it wasn't for you my loved one would still be alive?"
Lisnaholic
02-22-2018 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rubber soul
(Post 1928624)
I guess it depends on the President. Someone like Reagan or Obama tended to come off as genuine while someone like Clinton maybe you wondered if he was pandering for votes. I don't know who was sincere or not with the possible exception of Trump who's an absolute nitwit who doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. Anyway, I like to think that most of the Presidents (even Clinton) meant well when they offered sympathies.
^Yep, that's the impression I get as well.
Trump's total empathy fail:-
#5. I hear you
#6. Let's have more guns in schools
