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Old 10-02-2018, 07:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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From me yes. Not Wilson. He’s not into looking stupid.

When he describes how and why ants and wasps do what they do in the language of evolutionary biology and then starts explaining human social structures in similar terms to me that **** was really ****ing disturbing.

It’s odd because he sees it as hopeful but I think for most people, myself included, being stripped down to pure biology is ****ing horrifying.

You may think you’re ready for it or you’ve come to terms with it already but damn - it’s like Kafka - but real lol
Maybe I need it tbh. I want to believe in my fellow man who I know at work. I know they're politically illiterate, I know that given the chance they could be motivated against fascism, but I also know that it's a toss up and they could be motivated to fascism without any decision of their own depending on how politics becomes coded for them. They're simply political play doh whose current beliefs are shallow and based on historical precedent that is prone to change.

I can probably be motivated likewise without my even realizing it.

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Populism is neither inherently positive or negative
Nah it's negative. People are inherently prone to siding with their own provincial interests. The vast majority don't and never will give a **** about any greater political ideology without their culture telling them to. The only way to save them is to mold them in a way that just so happens to not exploit them. And they'll always listen to the person who tells them not to trust the person who says things that are alien to them.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What about when that doesn't happen

Like the, wait for it, Populists

was a whole primarily left movement in American history later inspired The Progressives
I think you're clinging to a capital because you have no opinions of your own.
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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People are inherently prone to siding with their own provincial interests. The vast majority don't and never will give a **** about any greater political ideology without their culture telling them to.
I agree with this so much.
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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People are inherently prone to siding with their own provincial interests. The vast majority don't and never will give a **** about any greater political ideology without their culture telling them to.
In other words, duh.
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