The Debates (country, shows, quote, 60s, 2008)

sleepy jack · 10-09-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyrenza

i suppose the thing that astounds me the most about the liberals is that even with the evidence right in front of their noses

they can't add it up

did you know that even hilary was unable to get a FULL investigation into his background?
and now
i think biden is about fed up with the crap

please don't assume that i think the other side is any better

from an objective standpoint
the news isn't giving us the whole story
and seems determined to lead the campaign the way THEY see fit

as far as i'm concerned
obama fans are nothing but sheep
who can't bother themselves to do any more than listen to and repeat what they hear on their local news

just saying

What evidence? He served on a board with Bill Ayers? Why don't you google the Keating Five and then tell me McCain hasn't surrounded himself with much worse individuals. Besides Ayers hasn't done shit in decades, he's a college professor now. Before you start calling people sheep you need to stop watching Fox.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-09-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Before you start calling people sheep you need to stop watching Fox.

i don't get my news from tv

sleepy jack · 10-09-2008, 10:40 PM

Gee you sure showed me, I'm aware they have a website too. Why not name where you get your news from? Or do you just read "anything and everything that is put in front of me"? You still haven't sourced anything to show Barack Obama is a terrorist, how can I ignore evidence "right in front of my nose" if you won't even provide it?

jibber · 10-09-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyrenza

i suppose the thing that astounds me the most about the liberals is that even with the evidence right in front of their noses

they can't add it up

did you know that even hilary was unable to get a FULL investigation into his background?
and now
i think biden is about fed up with the crap

please don't assume that i think the other side is any better

from an objective standpoint
the news isn't giving us the whole story
and seems determined to lead the campaign the way THEY see fit

as far as i'm concerned
obama fans are nothing but sheep
who can't bother themselves to do any more than listen to and repeat what they hear on their local news

just saying

Thank you for proving my point. Did you get all that straight from a conservative party campaign commercial or did you think that up all by yourself?

Please tell me specifically what concerns you have regarding Obama's background that haven't been addressed in a satisfactory manner, or brushed off by anyone with any degree of intellect as a completely senseless rumour. Can you think of anything specific, or will you have to "try and find me some and bring em to me"?

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-09-2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibber

Thank you for proving my point. Did you get all that straight from a conservative party campaign commercial or did you think that up all by yourself?

Please tell me specifically what concerns you have regarding Obama's background that haven't been addressed in a satisfactory manner, or brushed off by anyone with any degree of intellect as a completely senseless rumour. Can you think of anything specific, or will you have to "try and find me some and bring em to me"?

heavens no

i wouldn't dream of making you wait

why don't you just post a couple of links to his birth certificate
his school enrollment forms
etc

i AM smoking something
and beginning to feel lazy

sleepy jack · 10-09-2008, 10:48 PM

Oh jesus christ, don't respond if you're not even going to source your bullshit when asked. Both the things you're trying to imply are proven lies. Barack Obama IS an American citizen and he didn't go to a radical Muslim school.

Fight the Smears: The Truth About Barackâ€™s Birth Certificate
CNN debunks false report about Obama - CNN.com

jibber · 10-09-2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyrenza

heavens no

i wouldn't dream of making you wait

why don't you just post a couple of links to his birth certificate
his school enrollment forms
etc

i AM smoking something
and beginning to feel lazy

Like I said, can you think of anything specific that anyone with any degree of intellect has not long since dismissed as a senseless rumour. The birth certificate debate and the school enrollment debates are exactly such issues. They are non-issues that have been thoroughly refuted, and yet the McCain campaign continues to dredge them up to detract from talking about the real issues. Oh, and since you seem to need help so badly, here's a reproduction of Obama's birth certificate.

Now why don't you take a seat.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-09-2008, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibber

Like I said, can you think of anything specific that anyone with any degree of intellect has not long since dismissed as a senseless rumour. The birth certificate debate and the school enrollment debates are exactly such issues. They are non-issues that have been thoroughly refuted, and yet the McCain campaign continues to dredge them up to detract from talking about the real issues. Oh, and since you seem to need help so badly, here's a reproduction of Obama's birth certificate.

Now why don't you take a seat.

let me guess... you found it at stop the smears

but

do you know the story behind it?

Quote:

A prominent Democrat files suit in Federal court asking you to provide proof, to settle the matter once and for all. The judge then orders you to provide the court with the documents.

What do you do?

A. Provide the court with the three documents in question and go back to shaking hands, making promises and smiling for the cameras.
B. Provide images of one of the documents to a friendly website to post, but not to the judge.
C. Ignore the judge, then make a motion to dismiss the case, in lieu of providing the proof.
D. In the meantime, quietly, post a notice at your website, FighttheSmears.com that you had dual citizenship with Kenya.
E. Hire the top gun attorney from the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) to fight the case.
F. File a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08, thereby putting the matter off until–hopefully–after the election.
Time’s up. What do you do?

Most readers sensibly chose A.

But, if you’re Barack Obama, you chose answers B, C, D, E and F.

A curious response for a campaign interested in “fighting the smears”.

sounds like a fine upstanding prez candidate to me

“If there is nothing to hide, why is everyone involved going to such lengths to hide it?”

to normal people
where there's smoke
there's fire

and where there's a LOT of smoke

well, you get it

this dude is not who you think he is

jibber · 10-09-2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyrenza

let me guess... you found it at stop the smears

but

do you know the story behind it?

sounds like a fine upstanding prez candidate to me

“If there is nothing to hide, why is everyone involved going to such lengths to hide it?”

to normal people
where there's smoke
there's fire

and where there's a LOT of smoke

well, you get it

this dude is not who you think he is

I fail to see what is suspicious. The rumour was started with absolutely no basis whatsoever, and has been completely and thoroughly dismissed. there is no investigation into his heritage because the matter has been settled.

Your talking a lot about smoke and fires and covering up issues. Yet you haven't mentioned one word about the troopergate scandal. That is a big issue. THAT concerns the republican VP nominee under investigation for misuse of power and the entire republican party doing everything they can to cover it up.

Are you blind, dumb, or uninformed? or perhaps all three.

~~Fyrenza~~ · 10-09-2008, 11:32 PM

hey i'm sorry about calling you sheep

it's just that like most obama fans

you seem to take it as a personal insult if anyone says anything against your choice
and are ready to jump whomever in a heartbeat

you know
obama could be wrong about some things

blasphemous as that must sound

10-09-2008, 11:32 PM	#90 (permalink)
~~Fyrenza~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: high above the Republic of Texas Posts: 216	hey i'm sorry about calling you sheep it's just that like most obama fans you seem to take it as a personal insult if anyone says anything against your choice and are ready to jump whomever in a heartbeat you know obama could be wrong about some things blasphemous as that must sound