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Old 10-27-2008, 11:39 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Why isn't their common ground?

You're saying no pro-lifer thinks abortion is acceptible in cases of rape?
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:13 PM   #122 (permalink)
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No proper pro lifer I should think. Life is sacred no matter how it was created.

Anyway, I'd just like to say that I've never really understood this protestant stance towards abortion and the death penalty. One would think that if you are pro-life you couldn't possibly be pro-death penalty, but apparently you can. Maybe there's an addendum in the protestant 10 commandments that says "Thou shall not kill (except when it suits your fancy, then it's ok)."

Also, I suppose now we understand where the whole "preemptive defense" comes from; if execution can be considered self-defense, then why the hell wouldn't an unprovoked invasion of a country half way across the planet? :\
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:33 PM   #123 (permalink)
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They still would consider it murder I should think, but his common ground is on policy.

They find most abortion just irresponsibility or gross negligence in double dose. Either don't have sex or use a condom. But don't be lazy then murder.

Rape and in the event that it should kill the mother are widely accepted reasons here in the U.S.
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:45 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Why isn't their common ground?

You're saying no pro-lifer thinks abortion is acceptible in cases of rape?
Not at all ~ i believe that abortion should be a choice for a rape victim or a mother who's life is threatened by the pregnancy.

The reason i say there is no common ground is that you won't be able to convince me that abortion isn't killing someone, all of the time, even if there's a good excuse for it. The diff between the death penalty and abortion is that abortion condemns a completely innocent life, with no means of defending itself, while the death penalty is an extreme case, reserved for the most horrible of criminals.

For you, abortion is a modern day convenience, which allows 'mistakes' to be corrected, and is the right of the woman concerned, and i doubt that you would budge on that, or back-down to only allowing it in a Rape/Incest/LifeThreatening situation. (You'd be amazed in how FEW instances this occurs.)

Am i right?

That's all i'm saying ~ if we, here on a forum, discussing these issues casually, can't and won't change our stances, odds are that folks "looking out for the greater good" won't, either. Too much at stake. Too emotional an issue. And each side believes that THEY are the 'right' ones...
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:54 PM   #125 (permalink)
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No proper pro lifer I should think. Life is sacred no matter how it was created.

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You hit that nail squarely on the head!
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:18 PM   #126 (permalink)
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They still would consider it murder I should think, but his common ground is on policy.

They find most abortion just irresponsibility or gross negligence in double dose. Either don't have sex or use a condom. But don't be lazy then murder.

Rape and in the event that it should kill the mother are widely accepted reasons here in the U.S.
Rape is considered a valid reason for abortion by the American religious right? Really? Well, if they can support the death penalty I suppose anything is logical...
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:48 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Rape is considered a valid reason for abortion by the American religious right? Really? Well, if they can support the death penalty I suppose anything is logical...
No, the American religious right would oppose abortion for ANY reason, because, in faith, they put the matter into God's hands and let Him sort it out.

i'm not positive about the death penalty, there being things in the Bible which can be interpreted either way ~ trust in the Lord to take His vengenance, and an eye for an eye leap to mind.

Please don't judge the Christian religion based upon my views ~ my views are how i feel about the issue, FOR MYSELF. i can't speak for other people, and i'd rather not try.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:05 PM   #128 (permalink)
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Yeah, pro-life isn't really a good term to use. Pro-convenience seems more apt.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:30 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Yeah, pro-life isn't really a good term to use. Pro-convenience seems more apt.
Pro-convenience? Wouldn't that be the pro-choice side?
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