Obama ~ The Issues (house, American, title, income, quote)

jibber · 10-29-2008, 12:35 PM

No I really don't think I will be surprised. I know what the spread of wealth in the US is like. What I don't know is why you insist on asking questions like that without posting anything of use or any contribution to the argument at all. Had you posted anything after that to refute my statements, it would have been acceptable. What exactly was the point that you were trying to make with that question?

WendyCal · 10-29-2008, 12:59 PM

i just thought you might want some time to reply, before i posted a link that shoots your perceptions all to hell and gone. Not only that, it takes some time to RE-research what i've read, AND come up with a flippin' source you'll believe. Sheesh.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/op...ml?ref=opinion

TheBig3 · 10-29-2008, 01:17 PM

I don't think I get where you're going with this?

What does it matter if they work or not?

WendyCal · 10-29-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

I don't think I get where you're going with this?

What does it matter if they work or not?

Well, if it's an Income tax...

as opposed to investment income, which is a whole 'nother ball game

they have to actually be out there, working.

TheBig3 · 10-29-2008, 01:37 PM

Alright well anyway Obama called taxes patriotism and i agree but a more important point is that unbalanced tax burdens equate in my mind to the destruction of America.

In the "two sides to every coin game" I see someone who doens't work, who sits like an aristocrat in a million dollar home making bank off dividens decidedly unamerican.

Similarly, when we're not supporting the middle class, protecting their jobs and giving them a chance and an oppertunity to succed I think thats decidedly unamerican.

The propoghanda masters say is "socialism" but giving more to the wealthy is an aristocracy. The fact is we're taxing the middle class to holy hell, their the engine by which any economy runs.

When I was growing up the republicans we're the party of good logic. A common phrase you'd hear from them is "well this is a nice idea and we'd love for everyone to have everything, but in practice this just doesn't work." The republicans have given up their logic-based pragmatism and this is exactly one place you can see if ten-fold. They serve Main Street on social issues. As far as the economy goes well...their now big government, their now no-tax and spend. Their imperialists when they used to preach non-intervention.

The republicans have sold you out, not one man, but as a party. They need to lose really bad twice (at least) until they realize you can't treat the nation as a fuedal system.

WendyCal · 10-29-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Alright well anyway Obama called taxes patriotism and i agree but a more important point is that unbalanced tax burdens equate in my mind to the destruction of America.

In the "two sides to every coin game" I see someone who doens't work, who sits like an aristocrat in a million dollar home making bank off dividens decidedly unamerican.

Similarly, when we're not supporting the middle class, protecting their jobs and giving them a chance and an oppertunity to succed I think thats decidedly unamerican.

The propoghanda masters say is "socialism" but giving more to the wealthy is an aristocracy. The fact is we're taxing the middle class to holy hell, their the engine by which any economy runs.

When I was growing up the republicans we're the party of good logic. A common phrase you'd hear from them is "well this is a nice idea and we'd love for everyone to have everything, but in practice this just doesn't work." The republicans have given up their logic-based pragmatism and this is exactly one place you can see if ten-fold. They serve Main Street on social issues. As far as the economy goes well...their now big government, their now no-tax and spend. Their imperialists when they used to preach non-intervention.

The republicans have sold you out, not one man, but as a party. They need to lose really bad twice (at least) until they realize you can't treat the nation as a fuedal system.

Whoa, Nellie-Belle!

Making them lose isn't a very practical way to get their attention ~ in fact, it could very well backfire, horribly. What if they decide, hey, folks want what the DEMS are offering, which, as you pointed out, is exactly what they're doing right now.

When you think about just HOW MANY things would need to change, and change DRASTICALLY, to get our Government back on track,

well, it's disheartening...

Dr_Rez · 10-29-2008, 02:25 PM

Pllllllllllllllllllllllllllllease make your font normal.

anticipation · 10-29-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

Pllllllllllllllllllllllllllllease stop posting.

fixed & agreed.

Dr_Rez · 10-29-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

fixed & agreed.

Lol thanks for the quote correction. You just have to understand, sometimes what im thinking and what i type are different.

WendyCal · 10-29-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

Pllllllllllllllllllllllllllllease make your font normal.

RezZ, i have told y'all a couple of times why i use this font face/size/color. i've changed the color, per Right-Track, and, well,

just see my posts, please. (i'm already in a bit of a jam about posting too much in here, and riling people up)

Is it just the font that's driving you crazy? The ComicSanMS?

10-29-2008, 12:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,544	No I really don't think I will be surprised. I know what the spread of wealth in the US is like. What I don't know is why you insist on asking questions like that without posting anything of use or any contribution to the argument at all. Had you posted anything after that to refute my statements, it would have been acceptable. What exactly was the point that you were trying to make with that question? __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

10-29-2008, 01:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	I don't think I get where you're going with this? What does it matter if they work or not? __________________ I've moved to a new address

10-29-2008, 01:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	Alright well anyway Obama called taxes patriotism and i agree but a more important point is that unbalanced tax burdens equate in my mind to the destruction of America. In the "two sides to every coin game" I see someone who doens't work, who sits like an aristocrat in a million dollar home making bank off dividens decidedly unamerican. Similarly, when we're not supporting the middle class, protecting their jobs and giving them a chance and an oppertunity to succed I think thats decidedly unamerican. The propoghanda masters say is "socialism" but giving more to the wealthy is an aristocracy. The fact is we're taxing the middle class to holy hell, their the engine by which any economy runs. When I was growing up the republicans we're the party of good logic. A common phrase you'd hear from them is "well this is a nice idea and we'd love for everyone to have everything, but in practice this just doesn't work." The republicans have given up their logic-based pragmatism and this is exactly one place you can see if ten-fold. They serve Main Street on social issues. As far as the economy goes well...their now big government, their now no-tax and spend. Their imperialists when they used to preach non-intervention. The republicans have sold you out, not one man, but as a party. They need to lose really bad twice (at least) until they realize you can't treat the nation as a fuedal system. __________________ I've moved to a new address

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10-29-2008, 12:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
WendyCal Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 271	i just thought you might want some time to reply, before i posted a link that shoots your perceptions all to hell and gone. Not only that, it takes some time to RE-research what i've read, AND come up with a flippin' source you'll believe. Sheesh. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/op...ml?ref=opinion