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Old 11-02-2008, 12:21 AM   #231 (permalink)
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Of course they want a choice, but do you really think that the way the US went about this helped anything at all? The iraqi people are no better off now than they had been before. They're in the midst of a civil war at the moment, people are dying at a higher rate than they were before. How is the current situation any better?

The Bush administration fabricated reasons to go into iraq. They defied a the UN to go to war with a country unprovoked. Instead of bombing the **** out of the country to "help" them, maybe other lines of diplomacy should have been tried.
If "Of course they want a choice," then even if they do die, now, they're working toward a better day ~ not for themselves, so much, but for their children and the rest of their families.

Sometimes, one life doesn't mean so much in the Big Scheme of Things.

And, amazingly enough, there are brave, courageous people EVERYWHERE, who, regardless of religion, language, or culture, are willing to give their lives for something better.

And the funny thing? It's almost ALWAYS for their children...
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:23 AM   #233 (permalink)
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Serving in the United States Army with deployments to countries such as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bosnia and Korea. On the borders facing down guns and artillery pointed right at me. Monitoring the situations in countries that I could go to war against.
that's great. i supported operation desert storm since there was actually a reason to be fighting iraq. This time however, a war was started with no just cause and no real reason other than the fact that the US didn't like how the country was being run.

That's not a reason. If that were a justifiable war the entire world would be at war with 30 odd countries at once.

I respect your military service, but the fact that you had a gun pointed at you doesn't make you any more of an authority on the subject as anyone else.
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Sometimes, one life doesn't mean so much in the Big Scheme of Things.
But thousands do.
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This time however, a war was started with no just cause and no real reason other than the fact that the US didn't like how the country was being run.
that is a faulty premise and a complete distortion of the facts.
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:25 AM   #236 (permalink)
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OHH, I get it now! the iraqi people didn't demand help to establish a democracy, so the US had no other choice but to bomb the **** out of them until they accepted it.

"We're helping you! *bomb* adopt our democratic system damn it! *bomb* we're f*cking helping you! *BOMB*

right, just as the khmer rouge were justified in killing millions because their citizens would not cry out for help against a corrupt regime. Just like the Nazi's invaded poland, denmark, france etc. because they didn't ask for help from the "jewish bolsheviks."
Oh, wow ~ NO!

i was addressing the probs we have HERE with folks on welfare and all what have you! Sorry about that!

Hey, Jib? Man, you're on a flippin' ROLL!

Could we like confine ourselves to one war at a time?
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If "Of course they want a choice," then even if they do die, now, they're working toward a better day ~ not for themselves, so much, but for their children and the rest of their families.

Sometimes, one life doesn't mean so much in the Big Scheme of Things.

And, amazingly enough, there are brave, courageous people EVERYWHERE, who, regardless of religion, language, or culture, are willing to give their lives for something better.

And the funny thing? It's almost ALWAYS for their children...

How NOBLE of you to give millions of iraqi's lives away for the sake of freedom.

News flash, not every country in the world is willing to die for democracy. The iraqi's would have been happy with food, medical care, and the abolishment of such a corrupt government. It is not for the US to sacrifice OTHER NATION"S security and their citizen's life for the US's own personal agenda.
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UNFAN I DON'T GET THE IDEA OF being for Welfare it's just so awful and unamerican.
What do you think the government's function should be?
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Oh, wow ~ NO!

i was addressing the probs we have HERE with folks on welfare and all what have you! Sorry about that!

Hey, Jib? Man, you're on a flippin' ROLL!

Could we like confine ourselves to one war at a time?
yes, let's do that. since we were originally on the topic of the iraq war, why don't YOU stay on topic.
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What do you think the government's function should be?
Secure the borders, protect the country via military\law enforcement. Incarcerate felons. Get the fuck out the way.

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