TheBig3

Why? I make 30K pre-taxes every year. What the **** do I care what constitues rich...

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Son of JayJamJah

Do you think it's fair that someone who makes ten times as much as you pays nearly half their income in taxes while you probably pay around 28-30%?

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WendyCal

One day you might have the opportunity to own a business, and then it would matter. But i do see your point.

Also, it's the matter of him changing like that ~ the guys making $151K -$249K are now ALL spitting nails, and who could blame them. They were told one thing, to secure their support and votes, and now they're stuck like chuck.

TheBig3

I wouldn't think it fair if it were true. They don't pay half, most business folks are going to live in Deleware, not France. I live in Massachusetts and I'd guess I pay more in taxes than most on here...(states wise of course).

I might have the oppertunity but you understand that if people making 150k aren't paying the majority of the taxes, guys like me making 30K are, so do you honeslty think that I'm going to have the money to buy from businesses?

I moved this week and I had to write a check for $1125. I spent exactly $0 from my checking account because I had $20 in there extra. I didn't eat out, I didn't buy clothes, I didn't do anything. Thats what happens when I pay a majority of the taxes. Money needs to circulate and you pro-market clowns forget that Taxes aren't killing businesses, a lack of sales are killing businesses.

You think the stock market crashed because of Taxes? Get serious. You don't even need to be well versed in this stuff, its just logic.

If people don't have money to spend, they don't buy from businesses.

I don't know what else to say. If you can't figure that out, theres no point in my trying to explain it 7 other ways. My point of contention will always be, where do businesses get the money if not from consumers (because consumers are over taxed). If you can answer that, you might get me to budge.

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WendyCal

No, no, no ~ i didn't say the stock market crashed because of taxes, nor did anyone else, i don't think.

i honestly think the ONLY taxes our government should be getting from us are Sales Taxes, and i don't mind if they want it to be up to 15%. i think foreign Businesses operating here should pay SUBSTANTIAL taxes, and i believe that they should also pay SUBSTANTIAL Excise Taxes.

To me, that would be fair.

TheBig3

Thats no McCain's plan either. He's too business friendly and he wants to be Reagan without a clue how anything works.

Obama's tax plan is exactly what I'm looking. Wealth distribution is something you can swallow only if you're looking at them as flat rates. Their percentages.

As a famous comedian once said "if you have 4 millions dollars and your wife takes half; big deal, you're not starving, but if you make $30,000 and your wife wants $15,000 you might have to kill her."

The federal government is no different.

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WendyCal

ROFL ~ No! That's MY big, fat tax plan/policy!

And the wealth distribution i was speaking about was a chart that showed how many households in America made this much, and that much, and where the MOST of the folks fell. Like, if only 10% of Americans made over $250,000K, or, well, now it's $150,000K, then that STILL leaves everyone else to pick up the slack. Please don't forget, a LOT of those rich folks DON'T even WORK...