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Based on the number of times the 4th Infantry Division and 1st Cavalry Division were placed on alert to deploy to the "Persian Gulf" region, I'd say the plans were there. It would not have been a war crime. We were set to deploy every time that weapons inspectors were denied entry.

There was also genocide going on in Iraq. That is the #1 reason I support the actions taken.

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But nowhere has it ever been implied that we're fighting because of genocide, and even if we did use that claim the UN didn't give the thumbs up.

Son of JayJamJah

When you fight the bully at it's implied that it's because of all the awful things he's done to the less powerful. Even if you don't say so.

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no, it's not implied. Because when a president takes the issue to go to war, he is expected to outline each and every reason for why. When bush took the issue to congress, he did not put "humanitarian mission" at the top of the list. it might have been added in one of the appendixes as an afterthought, but when talking about a vote to go to war, an "implied" reason just isnt good enough.

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Son of JayJamJah

Stop pretending like all people are stupid. I think "They're going to kill us" ranks above "humanitarian mission" He doesn't need to say it for us to know it. You don't like Bush so the war is bad. Look at the bigger picture! We overthrew a dictator who made a habit of torturing and slaughtering massive amounts of his own and surrounding nations people. A guy who we believed had WMD's, said he had WMD's and said he would use them against America when he could. Now we are killing people who kill their own arbitrarily to prove a point and who want to kill us more then anything else while spending our money, money from the tax payers of the most philanthropic country in the world to build schools, housing, industry and more, train law enforcement and military and give the lives of service men and women in stabilizing a nation from people from within the country and surrounding nations.

What an awful, awful War.

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Yes, it is an awful, awful war because the money you're spending on schools and housing and industry pales in comparison to the money you're spending on bombing and shooting them.

This is the fundamental difference and this is why you will never convince me that you are right. You seem to think that the possibility that iraq may attack you was justified in starting a war. You may as well have started a war with iran, syria, and saudi arabia at the same time since all of those countries have a HUGE anti-american sentiment.

Iraq had not attacked the US. There was NEVER ANY EVIDENCE that iraq had attacked the US. The THOUGHT that they MIGHT will NEVER be justification for a war.

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Son of JayJamJah

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm trying to discuss ideas. Which your previous posts articulated very nicely, this rubbish however is so biased it looks like Al Franken love letter. You know you skewed every point you made there. MIGHT = Said he was going to. And according to UN bylaws or regulations I believe failure to adhere to UN resolutions and regulations repeatedly is reason for removal from power.

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