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ProggyMan 11-16-2008 10:45 PM

Yeh, my bad...

Applenux 11-17-2008 12:57 AM

There got to be something wrong with your country : why on earth does religion has anything to do with politic in USA ? o_o

In France, bigots shut their f*cking goddamned faces, and that's way better !
(In fact, the biggest part of French people are atheist)

The Unfan 11-17-2008 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Applenux (Post 546432)
There got to be something wrong with your country : why on earth does religion has anything to do with politic in USA ? o_o

A large amount of Americans are religious, a large amount of religions have politics in mind.

adidasss 11-17-2008 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Applenux (Post 546432)
There got to be something wrong with your country : why on earth does religion has anything to do with politic in USA ? o_o

In France, bigots shut their f*cking goddamned faces, and that's way better !
(In fact, the biggest part of French people are atheist)

That may be true, but you still didn't legalize same sex marriage...;)

Applenux 11-17-2008 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 546435)
That may be true, but you still didn't legalize same sex marriage...;)

ht-tp://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Homosexuality#Sexual_behavior
As you can see in the map, *** marriage isn't allowed in France, but there is a *** union, and contrary to USA, in the entire country.
Our problem is that the word "mariage" (I bet you'll understand the meaning) means litterally "union of people of opposite sexes", so "*** marriage" is a oxymoron, and is, basically, impossible.
(that's the argument of a large amount of french people)
Plus french peoples are a little bit... uptight with those things. Especially peoples over 50 years old (a half of the french population, basically)

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a large amount of religions have politics in mind.
That's what i though the first time I heard "god bless america", and the first time I saw an american dollar ("in god we trust")

edit : Wtf, why is the word "g-a-y" hidden ? o_o

adidasss 11-17-2008 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Applenux (Post 546442)
ht-tp://en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Homosexuality#Sexual_behavior
As you can see in the map, *** marriage isn't allowed in France, but there is a *** union, and contrary to USA, in the entire country.

That's because France isn't a federation...;)
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Our problem is that the word "mariage" (I bet you'll understand the meaning) means litterally "union of people of opposite sexes", so "*** marriage" is a oxymoron, and is, basically, impossible.
(that's the argument of a large amount of french people)
Um, I believe that's the argument everyone is making against it.
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Plus french peoples are a little bit... uptight with those things. Especially peoples over 50 years old (a half of the french population, basically)
So you're just as bigoted as Americans then...:D

Son of JayJamJah 11-17-2008 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Applenux (Post 546432)
There got to be something wrong with your country : why on earth does religion has anything to do with politic in USA ? o_o

In France, bigots shut their f*cking goddamned faces, and that's way better !
(In fact, the biggest part of French people are atheist)

That's absurd. In France people are much more bigoted. When I visited I was refused service twice because I was American.

TheBig3 11-17-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by streetwaves (Post 546364)
The letter from Thomas Jefferson you're talking about is referencing the First Amendment, which essentially is meant to establish a separation of church and state.

Yeah but "meant to" and "did" are different animals.

adidasss 11-17-2008 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 546499)
That's absurd. In France people are much more bigoted. When I visited I was refused service twice because I was American.

Are you serious? Where and what exactly happened?

TheBig3 11-17-2008 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 546499)
That's absurd. In France people are much more bigoted. When I visited I was refused service twice because I was American.

Yeah I'm not sure where this came from. First of all, being an aetheist generally means that you're far more biggoted toward religious people than religious people are toward aethists.

Secondly, The Germans and the French regularly have editorial pieces arguing what makes someone "French" or "German" and you can bet that a good majority outline an agenda that prevents Turks and middle easterners from being included.

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 546505)
Are you serious? Where and what exactly happened?

Are you really suprised by this? One of bosses was refused cab service in England because he was American for christs sake.


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