Oh yay, another political thread! (Prop 8, gay marriage stuff)

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

But that is too ambiguous of an arguement. You know "a" could be murder, murder most foul.

Who has the constitutional right to murder?

[The Unfan]

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Who has the constitutional right to murder?

The military, as long as its not fellow Americans.

[TheBig3]

Originally Posted by The Unfan

The military, as long as its not fellow Americans.

did you raise your index finger when you said that?

I'm fairly certain the Constitution doesn't say that, but if it did, then they couldn't take that right away alone.

[IamAlejo]

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Who has the constitutional right to murder?

The States.

[adidasss]

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I'm not talking only about the Catholic Church but any minister from any denomination or even a JP with a moral conviction who does not want to perform a relegious ceremony or preside over or legalize a marriage can not do so if there is a Federal Law supporting *** marriage and not risk legal action brought against him or her.

This is completely false and just another proof of how some people are being brainwashed against same-sex marriage. The freedom of religion is protected by the First Amendment and it's virtually impossible that a court decision or a law establishing the right of same-sex couples to marry on a federal level will somehow neglect to address and reaffirm this freedom.

The is no law pertaining to who can be ordain in a Church, for whatever legal reason, but if a Church was part of the gov't, a Federal Government Established Church then they would under the law be required to follow Federal law.

A Church a part of the Government? Say what now? Have you actually read the First Amendment?

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Please don't just regurgitate stuff your minister or someone else has said, you have the internet and are free to explore these things for yourself.

[Meph1986]

Same-sex marriage approved in Mexico City

[Arya Stark]

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[Meph1986]

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

(CNN) -- A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker found in his ruling that the ban violated the Constitution's equal protection clause under the 14th Amendment.

The closely watched case came some two years after Californians voted to pass Proposition 8, which defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

iReport: Your reaction

Neither opponents nor supporters of same-sex marriage said before the ruling that it would likely be the last. Both sides said the decision will be appealed and eventually wind up in the U.S. Supreme Court.

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage - CNN.com

[TheBig3]

When do they rule on the Mormons?

[RVCA]

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

When do they rule on the Mormons?

What do you mean?