sleepy jack

The problem with that idea is the fact that there's no evidence any sort of "soul exists" so to assume one does and base a belief off that like it's something empirical is absurd. It's also absurd to consider something metaphysical to be physical - if there's a soul and something like that which is innate and for a lack better word magical in all of us I don't think it would be anymore describable in human terms than a supposed god.

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Darkest Hour

seriously, a soul? I just can't imagine it. The only reason i believe in god is because i don't understand how we are here, or how everything just came from nothing. But a soul, that sounds so stupid.

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Freebase Dali

If you knew how contradictory the sentences you just wrote are...

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TheBig3

I don't disagree with that. My point was, I don't care what it tells us about people, it doesn't tell us anything about an afterlife. Looking at this psychologically isn't going to give you anything.

The only thing that I would think has some bearing of a posthumous in the psychological area is that humans are hard wired for "religion." Now I can't imagine how an entire portion of a brain grows to recognize something that, as far as some posters here are concerned, doesn't exist.

And with regard to the "soul" problem presented a few posts back, dicuss what you'd like, but just because I don't believe that a Christian afterlife exists, doesn't mean i don't think an afterlife exists.

Yeah I'm starting to think this guys a troll.

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Whatsitoosit

well put, makes me think. I've thought about this and whether or not our bodies are just vehicles for the soul to get around in and when we die the body becomes nothing more then a shell and the soul still exists. I know it sounds "magical" and a bit illogical but I guess those are two terms that go well with religion in general.

Deep stuff.

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Anteater

Whether or not you guys think the soul exists is completely irrelevant, especially considering the fact we have barely even begun to understand the more complex processes of how living organisms function, much less stimuli and phenomena that we can't observe with our current scientific methodology or instruments.

Until we have a better understanding of the universe and ourselves, we are merely left to speculate.

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cardboard adolescent

william blake will clear this all up for us:

THE VOICE OF THE DEVIL
(Plate 4 )

All Bibles or sacred codes, have been the causes of the following Errors.
1. That Man has two real existing principles Viz: a Body & a Soul.
2. That Energy, call'd Evil, is alone from the Body, & that Reason, call'd Good, is alone from the Soul.
3. That God will torment Man in Eternity for following his Energies.

But the following Contraries to these are True.
1. Man has no Body distinct from his Soul; for that call'd Body is a portion of Soul discern'd by the five Senses, the chief inlets of Soul in this age.
2. Energy is the only life and is from the Body and Reason is the bound or outward circumference of Energy.
3. Energy is Eternal Delight.

Whatsitoosit

As I read your post I pictured the guy in your avatar saying it, it worked well in my mind

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cardboard adolescent

Beckett would say something more like

"Let me go to hell, that's all I ask, and go on cursing them there, and them look down and hear me, that might take some of the shine off their bliss."

Freebase Dali

To me, looking at the psychological aspect of it does two things:
1, as we made apparent, it tells us about people's relationship with a fear-based desire for continuity.
As you said, that doesn't tell us anything about an afterlife itself. (at first glance)
But 2, looking at 1 generally and logically, you shine a light on the naturally occurring assumption that because of this situation between people and fear of death; the afterlife was created in the mind as a way to reconcile it.

It's sort of using one parameter to define another based on the relationship between those two parameters. Obviously we have a more solid foundation when weighing the psychological factors as opposed to supposition independent of them.

All I'm saying is there are ways to accurately draw conclusions based on psychological relationships. Of course, with the nature of what we're discussing here, each one of us only gets one chance to test our theories, and even then, it won't help anyone else.

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