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Old 01-06-2009, 08:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it ever justified? Should it be legal? If so, with what restrictions?
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's never justified and should never be legal. Fuck Dick Cheney and Antonin Scalia.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Torture? It doesn't matter what we argue. For and against, it doesn't really, because sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, and other times its part of snuff pornography, so at times it has nothing to do with politics or the gathering of information.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It's those kind of stupid comments that encourage this shit. People really need to read Matthew Alexander's book. We didn't need torture to beat the Nazis or the Soviets and we don't need it now. We need to follow the international agreements we've made. All torture does is weaken the resolve of our allies and bring up their numbers. Torture is never the answer and to paraphrase John McCain you don't get anything out of it.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If John McCain doesn't like it, neither do I.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah what does McCain know about torture?
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Yeah what does McCain know about torture?
As much as Lynndie England and Charles Graner Luckily he disagrees with them though.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Are you fucking serious? You're comparing a man who spent five years in a Vietnamese camp to two fucked up torturers?
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Are you ****ing serious? You're comparing a man who spent five years in a Vietnamese camp to two ****ed up torturers?
I quote "Yeah what does McCain know about torture?"

Answer: Alot considering he was a POW.

And maybe its just me but who would know very well what torturing is than 2 people who were nationaly uncovered doing it. Fair comparison if you ask me. Sure there complete scumbags but doesnt change the fact. You need to take a deep breath and relax.
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Do I need to spell out the differences between antonyms for you? There's a difference between torturing and victimization. Aside from the horrible logic you use you don't even have your facts straight. England and Graner were not even torturing information. You don't feed a Muslim pork and tell him to praise Jesus because you need information, you do it because you're a sick human being.
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