Lets just bail out the world (Russian, quote)

Dr_Rez · 01-29-2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

and yet Woodrow Wilson is still quite possibly one of the worst U.S. Presidents in history.

That is true but I admire any president who tries at all lengths to stay out of a war no matter what the reason may be.

Dr_Rez · 01-29-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Yes but according to you his three Republican predecessors somehow led to World War I.

And?

You said "Or you think if a Democrat had been in office during World War I we wouldn't have eventually gotten involved in it?". And I simply told you that's not true.

It is because of alliances previous presidents made that we entered the war. Not Woodrow Wilson, he opposed it above all.

sleepy jack · 01-29-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

And?

You said "Or you think if a Democrat had been in office during World War I we wouldn't have eventually gotten involved in it?". And I simply told you that's not true.

It is because of alliances previous presidents made that we entered the war. Not Woodrow Wilson, he opposed it above all.

I assumed Wilson was a Republican because your post implied we went into WWI under a Republican administration...and you told flat out lies in regards to economic depressions and tried to justify it with some conspiracy theory bullshit that just isn't true. After doing that you turned around said Republicans are warmongers despite all but one of those wars being justifiable. Yes I'm clearly the one who has an honesty problem here.

Dr_Rez · 01-29-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

I assumed Wilson was a Republican because your post implied we went into WWI under a Republican administration...and you told flat out lies in regards to economic depressions and tried to justify it with some conspiracy theory bullshit that just isn't true. After doing that you turned around said Republicans are warmongers despite all but one of those wars being justifiable. Yes I'm clearly the one who has an honesty problem here.

Your impossible to argue with. Everything is a personal attack towards or from you. I quit, you win. Congrats.

Take a lesson or two from the other mods on how to formulate and carry out a respectable debate.

Inuzuka Skysword · 01-29-2009, 08:08 PM

I love how capitalism is automatically associated with conservatism, when in reality it is much more radical than liberalism...

Plus, I am nowhere near a conservative. As I have mentioned in other threads, I base capitalism off the moral argument. I don't really say capitalism is good because it worked, here, here, and here.

sleepy jack · 01-29-2009, 08:15 PM

That's nice; instead of doing what's best economically you do what's "morally" acceptable.

ProggyMan · 01-30-2009, 10:29 PM

Just thought I'd point this out:
The U.S. did next to nothing in WWI, Germany was doomed from the start, same with WWII, the Russians contributed much more basically destroying the German army. The casualties on the western front were relatively small. The U.S. did beat Japan, but after Germany was defeated they wouldn't have been able to put up much of a fight.

Inuzuka Skysword · 01-31-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

That's nice; instead of doing what's best economically you do what's "morally" acceptable.

I am saying that what is morally right is practically right. Therefore, I should not run away from what is moral.

swim · 01-31-2009, 03:57 PM

So you don't pay taxes if you stand behind this so much, right?

Inuzuka Skysword · 01-31-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by swim

So you don't pay taxes if you stand behind this so much, right?

I pay the taxes I have to. It is not morally wrong for me to pay money towards someone else. It would be morally wrong for someone to force me to pay other people money. See the difference?

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01-29-2009, 08:08 PM	#45 (permalink)
Inuzuka Skysword Existential Egoist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,468	I love how capitalism is automatically associated with conservatism, when in reality it is much more radical than liberalism... Plus, I am nowhere near a conservative. As I have mentioned in other threads, I base capitalism off the moral argument. I don't really say capitalism is good because it worked, here, here, and here.

01-30-2009, 10:29 PM	#47 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Just thought I'd point this out: The U.S. did next to nothing in WWI, Germany was doomed from the start, same with WWII, the Russians contributed much more basically destroying the German army. The casualties on the western front were relatively small. The U.S. did beat Japan, but after Germany was defeated they wouldn't have been able to put up much of a fight.