Constellations are man made patterns. They could have easily been something completely different i.e. a lot bigger or smaller, hence that would change what sign you would be.

And that's why Horoscopes aren't complete bull****. They're man made conclusions drawn from man made "signs" about men. They follow vague and generic stereo types, men fall into the categories. There's nothing celestial or other worldly about it. It's bull**** in that sense. But if you think of it as humans just building something up just to break it back down - then there you have astrology.

Right that's a given but I think they are kept track of by what is easily observable. And of course they are man made patterns just like laws of science are extremely predictable patterns (so as to be called 'law') designed by man made experiments. I understand that it's hard to suspend bias after all the ridiculous claims that have come from astrology in the recent past but to believe blindly in what is accepted right now about it (not a whole lot, scientifically speaking) is the same as believing blindly that the world could not be round like most people thought years ago. Good science is open minded, ready to be proved right, wrong or simply questionable. Just because astrology is unpopular now doesn't mean there might not be something to it. In the study of organisms it is impossible to separate the actions of the organism from its environment. So extend your outward seeking explanation from human 'behavior is determined by the Earth,' to 'the Earth's behavior is determined by its position in the solar system' (i.e. seanal changes), to 'the Solar system's behavior is determined by the Milky Way,' and so on and so forth. I don't mean to reject free will or genetics (to tie in that ethics discussion), but unless you can prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is NOT an outwardly acting force on our actions that exists simultaneously with our will, then I am open to the idea. One hypothesis for this could be the position of the Earth in relation to the rest of the universe.

I'm not telling anyone to look up their horoscope and act on it (I would never do this); I am simply writing this because I think it is important to be open to new scientific ideas. Science can limit just as easily as it can expand our perception, just like religion.

Well, I thought of writing a lengthy post because I think a lot of your claims are rather silly, but you're right in a way. You can certainly speculate it - like you might speculate that your whole life is a dream and that the world is actually ruled by machines that use us as organic batteries.

This almost word for word what I was thinking.

Really? What zodiac are you again? :D

"OMFG my horoscope said something kinda vague and I did a lot of things today an I guess one of them could fit in with what it said"

space is a grassy knoll and orion is the shooter.

Surely the shooter would be Sagittarius

orion is a hunter and man is the deadliest catch, duh.


but sagittarius works too i gues.s.