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Old 02-19-2009, 02:16 PM   #51 (permalink)
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What most people consider to be science is actually belief. Anytime one has to replace the word "is" with "I believe," it is philosophy that is being talked about. Go to a lecture on relativity and quantum physics, and you will hear the word "believe" a lot. Many of the philosophies that use what we consider to be astrology have beliefs that are conjectured from observation. Do not discount man's power to observe two thousand or ten thousand years ago. Where such beliefs get muddled with superstition lies the problem most westerners have with astrology. The east has been more effective at sticking to observation, such astrology really boarders on earth science. At it's heart, astrology is the study of the effect of gravity on psychology. Without knowing what gravity is however, one can still observe that, hmm, children born in such and such season, have uncanny resemblances to each other. Anything having to do with psychology is statistical; it never applies to everyone or to all circumstances. Only trends can be observed. Until both the brain and gravity are understood beyond our current piddling state of knowledge, the most prudent stance is to be at least agnostic to astrology.
What observations have been made? What actual evidence is their for celestial bodies influencing a person's life and personality?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:21 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Sounds like you may be confusing astrology with astronomy.

Astronomy is the scientific study of celestial bodies, not astrology. Incorporating science into astrology would be somewhat a contradiction, part because it has so many beliefs integrated into it which are not results of scientific tests or thinking.
Astrology and Astronomy were one not long ago at all. They've only been driven apart as "rationalism" has become more prevalent. Just because astrology is no longer scientific, doesn't mean it would be a contradiction to bring back a more thorough way of looking at it, even if it has been corrupted.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:24 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Astrology and Astronomy were one not long ago at all. They've only been driven apart as "rationalism" has become more prevalent. Just because astrology is no longer scientific, doesn't mean it would be a contradiction to bring back a more thorough way of looking at it, even if it has been corrupted.
Well one is entirely based on fact, the other is not.
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Well one is entirely based on fact, the other is not.
Funny thing about facts... they are constantly being revised or disproved. That's the beauty of science it keeps changing. Astronomy and astrology are both based on observation. Gaining a more "fact" based study of astrology is the exact thing I'm advocating.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:18 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Why won't someone answer my question.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:59 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Why won't someone answer my question.
Congratulations your right. There is no solid evidence to back it up. But it is like religion, something you believe in as myself and many others do.
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:37 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Um I'm not religious...
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:21 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:51 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I don't believe in any of the signs stuff. but since I'm also Sagittarian, I thought I just copy the first post and look whether it fits..
let's see:

(original bold written stuff by BoopieJones - my own 2 cents are red)

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Life Pursuit: To live the good lifeI feel like this is so true, for me, because I believe the best goal in life is to attain happiness and enjoy your ride.
what other goal would there be? I'm just not that enjoying my ride right now, but it's a good goal


Vibration: Overly expressive - frequent burnoutsI often express myself too much. Very emotional. I "burn out" often, but then I'm back to my hyper and cheery outspoken self. Not true for me most of the times. Only when I'm on weed I can't stop talking. ****, that is. But I guess that's the point of smoking weed

Sagittarian's Secret Desire: To make a difference in the world Silly but it's something I wish I could do. Definitely why I took such an interest in Model UN and probably why I wish I could be a writer,even though I can't write, or to do something influential, like start a foundation...
Ok, I do agree on that. Model UN sounds like fun. I'm not really sure what to do with my life, but if I could I would want to make a difference in the world




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Ruled by the benefic planet Jupiter, Sagittarians possess a natural exuberance, sense of adventure and love of life that makes them one of the most optimistic zodiac signs of all.Very true. Not True Like their astrological symbol - the Archer - Sagittarians are renowned for aiming their sights towards whatever it is they find alluring - a love partner, dream job, vacation - and making it their own. They believe that anything is possible - and because of this belief system, Sagittarians are adept at seeking out their very own pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.Also, pretty true. Not that true.

But sometimes trying to tie down these free-spirited individuals is frustrating for those around them. Sagittarians are happiest on the move - exploring new cultures and ideas and many are attracted to occupations related to travel, the media, outdoor work and philosophical pursuits.True, but then why am I going for a career in Engineering? I'm drawn to problem solving. I'd love to travel the world and be philosophical. But then again, who wouldn't? In love, their catch-cry is "don't fence me in". But once they find a partner who understands their need to retain their own sense of self and identity, Sagittarians can be the most big-hearted, generous and fun-loving companions of all.Werd. Don't know about that one either.. that "don't fence me in" kind of suits though.

Freedom loving, optimistic and honest, Sagittarians are ruled by Jupiter, the planet of abundance and higher learning. The wisdom of Jupiter imbibes Sagittarians with an inherent need to develop their own unique philosophy of life. Indeed. AgreeThe Centaur is their astrological symbol, and it gives many insights into the Sagittarian personality. The higher-evolved Sagittarian learns to integrate the two ends of the Centaur (half-human, half-beast) in order for their arrow (another Sagittarian symbol) of higher aspirations to be more on the mark. I feel this is true. I set my goals high but realistically highAlthough they are intellectually and spiritually advanced, Sagittarians are notorious for their lack of tact. YES. THIS IS ME. LOL not seeing myself in the last lines..In relationships they demand independence, but when in love, it can't be denied that they are one of the most big-hearted signs of the zodiac. Also true. Haven't we have that already?

Mine is creepily true.


Yours?


Well I'm not sure, I believe the magic of zodiac signs is that it's us, the readers of those descriptions, that see ourselves in them, but if it was a totally different description (that we still thought of as a description of our zodiac sign) we would also see ourselves in it. They just describes aspects of human feelings/behavior that to some extend suit everyone.
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Old 03-01-2009, 04:00 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I'm a Taurus...here's my horoscope for the day:

TAURUS (April 20-May 20). You'll be applying all you know about creating a mood. You will address all of the five senses as you create the perfect atmosphere for a pleasant encounter with those you enjoy being around.

OMG...it like, totally applies to me!



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