half_baked87

so because i'm from canada and i like weed that somehow de-values my opinion of american media? way to broadbrush a nation, asshat. we're not all socialist pussies up here. i have plenty of problems with the media in my country. but this thread was about fox news, and thats what i think of it. the lesser of the evils.

half_baked87

fair enough, hannity is a bullheaded douche. but everything you've mentioned here about liberals being attacked on fox news is exactly what happens to conservatives on CNN, NBC and other major networks. the only difference is the pundits there rely on their own sense of superiority (smug little laughs, eye rolls at the silly backwards conservative) instead of being a loud mouthed SOB. at least hannity is right out in the open with it when he throws his objectivity to the wind.

and i hate to bring this up, but its too damn relavant not to. THEY TREAT OBAMA LIKE JESUS CHRIST! does anyone else remember when obama made the special olympics joke on letterman i think it was? he got away SCOTT FREE!! if bush would have said that he'd have been crucified by every major network and forced to apologize to anyone who's brother knows a retard. where was reverend al? where was jesse jackson? where were all these civil rights and political correctness vultures then? ****ing nowhere, because the media didn't want to give too much coverage and besmirch beloved obama's image.

so even if FOX has a right-wing lean to it. everything else has a pretty hard left lean to it, so in the end, if you watch both you should be scared and confused. and isn't that what they're all trying to do anyways?

TheBig3

Actually, you don't get a choice as to whether or not you're socialist unless you leave and revoke citizenship. Now I never called socialists pussies, but if you think you're a pussy thats your problem.

Theres nothing liberal about CNN. I remember learning that objective journalism was actually not the standard and that it was created as a marketing ploy to get more readers.

In the early days of this, the New York Times would cover a lynching in the south, and they'd also interview Klansmen to get "their side of the story."

Theres somethings that are generally just wrong. Because Fox news gives a voice to homophobic, racist america doesn't mean their "Fair and Balanced."

No I don't think its a story that his middle name is Hussein, no I don't want to see his birth certificate, no, I'm not afraid he might be a secret muslim.

They also created the entire Tea Bag party "Grassroots effort," its not fair, its bull****.

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half_baked87

yes i get a choice, just because i live in a socialist country doesn't shackle me to that political view. but thats besides the point here.
of course they interviewed klansmen, because what's taboo in culture is a transient thing. the KKK wasn't seen in the same light as they are today. and a large number of people in your wonderful nation likely agreed with it. and tell me, who is the real racist? the guy who puts his blinders on to anything and everything negative a powerful black man does, simply because of his skin colour? or a toothless cousin-****er who hates n-words cause thats what daddy told him? BOTH! they are both horribly racist. and yeah i agree with you i could give a **** less about his middle name or his religion. but they (FOX) had no problem questioning his actual policies (some of which make sense) either. and c'mon... the coverage he got for buying a dog... why doesn't wolf blitzer just drop to his knees right there. ugh. but like it or not, homophobic, rascist america is a big chunk of the whole america, and these turds have every right to be heard alongside the hypersensitive overdramatic pansies that make up the rest.

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The only people who complain about it's bias as a news organization are equally or more biased in the other direction with their own viewpoints.

It's the top rated Cable News Network and the president and congress are under liberal control. They were also #1 when both branches were conservative.

My question to anyone who complains about the network would be... why not just not watch it?

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TheBig3

So you pay for your medical care when you go to the hospital? If you're going to hate an economic system, put your money where your mouth is, like conservatives who hate socialism here. Give up your SS check.

I don't think anyone has a problem with that, even MSNBC questions his policies. Who are decidedly liberal.

If you thought that was bad, you should have seen the coverage for his Burger trip. Its 24 hour news man, get serious for a second and realize they can't cover pakistan for 18 hours a day.

It likely got more coverage because he has young children.

way to broadbrush an entire country, asshat

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half_baked87

i pay for my healthcare (and many other peoples) long before i need to go to the hospital, when the government takes half of my paycheque every week. there isn't really too much i can do about that now is there? and we don't exactly get SS cheques here, we ahve canada pension plan. but in reality, i'm 22 years old man, and by the time i'm old enough to start collecting it, i see it as getting back a SMALL PORTION of what i've paid into it over the years. (if theres anything left after the baby-boomers pillage it) come to think of it, its not a bad deal. i love canada and i wouldn't live anywhere else in the world, despite our many shortcomings.

24 hour news is in itself a farce... and yeah you are right there, theres only so much they can yak about. but lets not play dumb, it got way more coverage than it needed because it was a identifiable story about your president to make everyone think he's a swell fellow. it was stupid, pandering dreck like 90% of the stories on obama.

and i'm sorry you interpreted my remarks as broadbrushing americans as racists or PC vaginas, of course it was an oversimplification. but i didn't question the validity of your arguments simply because of where you live.

TheBig3

Well I said it would open you up to ridicule. I don't care where you live. It was more that your name is "half baked."

From my perspective, I don't know why Obama is being as hated as he is. He's barely over the 100 days mark and he's done more work than most in his short time in office. People don't actually think he's jesus, and despite his historic victory, I doubt anyone voted for him because of race. He had sound policies that weren't insanely partisan and despite his efforts, republicans refuse to work with him at all.

People like him because the alternative is literally the people who got us into this mess.

As for socialized programs, like many western economies have, keep in mind that they have quite a few auxiliary aspect that pay off huge. For example our senior citizens aren't dying off alone in apartments.

And the same way the public transit funding, and natural disaster and pandemic precautions don't actually stimulate the economy, the do prevent it from shrinking. Many of the natural services the country needs are because we have a socialist nature to a few programs.

Do you know how many industries would be effected if Social Security was taken away? Willfred Brimley would be screwed.

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Because being the #1 cable news network they actually have a lot of power. A lot of people consider O'Reilly's talking points to be the gospel. I consider them largely responsable for spreading a lot of the lies and misconceptions about the Iraq war, and also for being the first to run with the Florida f*ck up that destroyed any chance of Gore taking the election in 2000.

MSNBC while "condemming" FoxNews are actually imitating them in just about every way, in fact FoxNews is rubbing off on every other news network and that's certainly gonna become a problem.

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I think you are worrying about nothing here honestly. I see your point, but the days of the Newscaster carrying gravitas and influencing real change are over. Even as the #1 news network, O'Reilly is seen in less then 10% the homes Cronkite was.

I don't want to start the argument, but it's just silly to think anything other then Bush won the election in 2000. The fact that their is no conclusive proof even now nine years after is all I need to now. And if people are dumb enough to take a cable news network talking point as gospel are problems are the puppets not the alleged puppeteers.

The American people are smarter the Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olberman or Stephen Colbert would even give them credit for. It's just that the dumber ones are the louder ones, it's no different then the animal kingdom. The stupider soming is the more loud and annoying it is. Look at Birds.

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