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Old 05-16-2009, 08:52 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I mean we all knew Fox was going to go into this paranoid state if Obama won. I can understand why that alone shouldn't mean anything.

The problem is, people like JJJ just want to pretend that nobody is actually buying into their fanaticism. FoxNews doesn't just become the #1 news network in the world if nobody watched it with serious intentions, OF COURSE they do, being raised in the neo con south I can tell you that a lot of people look up to FoxNews as their source of information. Writing that off as "well they're just stupid" is a cop out, stupid people have a lot of power in this country.

I'm not saying this is like.... the most important damn issue in the country for crying out loud. But I'm not gonna stop calling Hitler a prick just because it's a goddamn trend.

It should be a trend. And with all this talk about the dems wanting to revive the fairness doctrine now that we have a democrat congress, I actually think this will become a major political issue.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:09 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Well, also keep in mind where you're from. You're surrounded by people who love fox, so the world seems to be eating it up, but up here its a joke. if you say you watched fox here people would think you're TV was broken.

The republicans in MA are such a maligned group that the ones who talk about it are all crackpots. They don't speak about politics, they interrupt other people talking politics and rant. They love Sarah Palin because shes "so cute."

That being said, I don't think the fairness doctrine is going to come back to life, I think Obama loves them being out there, and I think the conservative radio hosts will make it an issue, but independents won't give a flying ****, and thats going to bring them into the Democratic fold.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:13 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Ok, but because I'm in an environment where everybody worships FoxNews, it's an important issue to me, and I hate being called an idiot and trendhopper just because the rest of the world is different, I don't live in the rest of the world, I'm going by my own experiences here. I get scrutinized by my family and peers all the time because they're all a bunch of Limbaugh worshiping neo cons.
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Who's calling you an idiot, trendhopper?

I'm saying I don't think the issue will be as huge as you suggest.
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I think it will become an issue if the dems can gather up enough supporters in congress for the fairness doctrine, and I can certainly see that happening.

Which btw, I don't support, it's unconstituional. But I do believe there should be media enforced regulations regarding fairness and airtime.
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there is no way in hell the fairness doctrine is coming back.
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Why would you say that?

Democrats are very much for the idea. Obama doesn't support it. But I feel there may be enough dems in congress who will at least try to get a bill passed.
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Who's calling you an idiot, trendhopper?

I'm saying I don't think the issue will be as huge as you suggest.
This is exactly what I am saying boo boo.

I have no doubt that a lot of stupid or lzy people take their cues from the news network, part of my point of the Daily Show and Colbert. I've had a lot of students get their news and form their opinions based on those shows, it's annoying and frustrating yes, and if I was surrounded by adults who all worshiped at the feet of Lord Rupert then I too would be quite perturbed, to reiterate though I don't think anyone narrowminded enough to find their information from such a shallow source has the shovel or pick nessacary to make any kind of mark deep enough to last.
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People who watch FoxNews also vote.
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Why would you say that?

Democrats are very much for the idea. Obama doesn't support it. But I feel there may be enough dems in congress who will at least try to get a bill passed.
Because across all boards, conservative talk radio has pulled the republicans rightward, and thats why their losing.

The dopes who want the fairness doctrine are just as bad the the few remaining republican senators, their playing to an extremist base. Anyone who's good at playing politics knows you want to keep those idiots talking, and keep them pushing independents away.

If anything, the congressional democrats will push it through, and hope to get it by the senate to Obama, he can veto it and look like a moderate. He'll give a big speech on constitutionality, and pick up more republicans than he did last time.

Obama has no reason to push Limbaugh away. You're talking about blue democrats and barry sanders who arne't ever getting tossed out of office, short of a scandal.

The democrats know how to avoid a scandal. Clinton brush offed an attempt to remove him from office. Republicans have message discipline, democrats have topical-agility. I promise you, the fairness doctrine was born in a time of restrictiveness. Following the Reagan revolution, no Dem will support it.

Big government intervention isn't something they care about as much as it seems, especially as to who says what on the radio. Michael Savage and his ilk are allowing thm to pick up more and more states.

I'd put strong money on the republicans voting for the damn thing to shut these morons up.
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