Physical discipline against children .. okay or not?

DwnWthVwls · 11-01-2016, 12:17 PM

Lol? People definitely fly out of cars when not seatbelted and could easily injure others inside the vehicle.. That's not the point. People who voluntarily put themselves in danger or at risk have the right to do so. It would also help with our global population and sustainability problems.

DwnWthVwls · 11-01-2016, 12:18 PM

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Yeah, thanks for a reminder of the futility of trying to discuss anything on-topic around here.

Topics are in constant fluctuation, sorry you missed the boat. Ask a mod to make a new thread and migrate the off topic discussion.

**Frownland** · 11-01-2016, 12:18 PM

My point is that you are imposing the risk you're willing to take on other people and I prefer having safety imposed on me than danger, within reason of course.

The Batlord · 11-01-2016, 12:19 PM

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It may not be the movies but inertia still does exist.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Lol? People definitely fly out of cars when not seatbelted and could easily injure others inside the vehicle.. That's not the point. People who voluntarily put themselves in danger or at risk have the right to do so. It would also help with our global population and sustainability problems.

How often does this actually happen? Is this a real thing or just something that occasionally happens every once in a blue moon, like the reverse of winning the lottery?

**Frownland** · 11-01-2016, 12:20 PM

Any crash that involves a rollover. Plus the statistics aren't clear since the laws are in place and confound the numbers. It might be a rare event because of those regulations.

Guybrush · 11-01-2016, 12:23 PM

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Topics are in constant fluctuation, sorry you missed the boat. Ask a mod to make a new thread and migrate the off topic discussion.

I'd rather just migrate. Have fun on your boat.

DwnWthVwls · 11-01-2016, 12:24 PM

It's like you don't want anyone to have the responsibility of making their own decisions when it comes to safety. I appreciate your point about people who have conditions that don't allow them to get immunity shots, but besides that I'm not convinced of your stance.

All the risks I've used as examples have no significant risk on other people. I support smoking bans in public places. I don't support banning smoking.

**Frownland** · 11-01-2016, 12:24 PM

^What do you think about my point on mutation? That seems like kind of a game changer for that philosophy.

It seems to be a pretty clear topic that doesn't see too much disagreement around here, that's kind of a recipe for off topicness to occur, I've noticed.

Chula Vista · 11-01-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

People who voluntarily put themselves in danger or at risk have the right to do so.

How about people who voluntarily put others in danger or at risk?

It's a fact that back seat passengers who don't wear seat belts put the front seat passenger(s) at a 600% greater risk of being injured or killed in a head on collision.

And again the associative costs:

In 2013 the CDC did a study and found that drivers and passengers who weren't wearing seat belts resulted in lifetime medical and lost work costs of $45 billion dollars.

**Frownland** · 11-01-2016, 12:27 PM

Also, parents deciding for their kids is not an individual matter either. The unvaccinated kids don't understand it and risk death because their parents are stupid.

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11-01-2016, 12:18 PM	#723 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	My point is that you are imposing the risk you're willing to take on other people and I prefer having safety imposed on me than danger, within reason of course. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-01-2016, 12:20 PM	#725 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Any crash that involves a rollover. Plus the statistics aren't clear since the laws are in place and confound the numbers. It might be a rare event because of those regulations. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-01-2016, 12:24 PM	#728 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	^What do you think about my point on mutation? That seems like kind of a game changer for that philosophy. It seems to be a pretty clear topic that doesn't see too much disagreement around here, that's kind of a recipe for off topicness to occur, I've noticed. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-01-2016, 12:27 PM	#730 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Also, parents deciding for their kids is not an individual matter either. The unvaccinated kids don't understand it and risk death because their parents are stupid. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x