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Son of JayJamJah 06-23-2009 10:55 PM

Ever try a sensory deprivation tank?

cardboard adolescent 06-23-2009 11:09 PM

can't say i have ready access to one of those, but if the opportunity ever came up...

Hesher 06-24-2009 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent (Post 689218)
if you have no experience with God, you are not qualified to say anything about his existence or non-existence.

There are known unknowns and there are unknown unknowns...

Maxwellwebb 06-24-2009 03:33 AM

Well This is Easy
 
1. The Bible refers to it as a fruit, not an apple.

2. Go to Genesis 5:3, Adam fathered many men and women. Cain's wife was a sister of his, note that this was not illegal as it was in the Mosaic law, man was closer to perfection back then so the ill effects of incestuous childbearing did not affect them.

The story is not a metaphor, if that were true then a whole ton of crap in the Bible would be irrelevant (Jesus could not be the Greater Adam) and the promise of restoration of man's perfection would be false.]

Fire away any questions if you have any more.

Guybrush 06-24-2009 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxwellwebb (Post 689458)
The story is not a metaphor, if that were true then a whole ton of crap in the Bible would be irrelevant (Jesus could not be the Greater Adam) and the promise of restoration of man's perfection would be false.]

Fire away any questions if you have any more.

If the Genesis is not a metaphor, why is there so much evidence out there that contradict it such as fossils, dating of earth rocks and meteorites and so on?

Scarlett O'Hara 06-24-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxwellwebb (Post 689458)
1. The Bible refers to it as a fruit, not an apple.

2. Go to Genesis 5:3, Adam fathered many men and women. Cain's wife was a sister of his, note that this was not illegal as it was in the Mosaic law, man was closer to perfection back then so the ill effects of incestuous childbearing did not affect them.

The story is not a metaphor, if that were true then a whole ton of crap in the Bible would be irrelevant (Jesus could not be the Greater Adam) and the promise of restoration of man's perfection would be false.]

Fire away any questions if you have any more.

It is a metaphor, I'm Catholic I think I'd have some idea. I believe God used evolution as a way for the earth develop - there is such a thing as science being created by God as a tool for humans to gradually gain an understanding of the environment they live in order to continue to advance as a human race.

Piss Me Off 06-24-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 689509)
It is a metaphor, I'm Catholic I think I'd have some idea. I believe God used evolution as a way for the earth develop - there is such a thing as science being created by God as a tool for humans to gradually gain an understanding of the environment they live in order to continue to advance as a human race.

I've always liked this idea as far as combining both science and religion. I don't see why it always has to be so black and white and you have to pick one side.

cavanherk 06-24-2009 09:18 AM

Science is God.

"God" didn't create the sun and moon on the first day, so he had an eternity to create the historic world before creating the sun and, therefore, time and, therefore, observable 24-hour days and nights and, therefore, the next four days' creations.

Just a thought.

Anteater 06-24-2009 09:54 AM

You know, rather than us worshipping a god of some kind, wouldn't it be cool if gods worshipped humans?

cavanherk 06-24-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 689625)
You know, rather than us worshipping a god of some kind, wouldn't it be cool if gods worshipped humans?

Yeah, if they would envy our earthbound mortality, respect our humble biological powers, and find entertainment in our banter.


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