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Isbjørn 04-15-2015 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577273)
what? What are the last questions?

No idea. You said "ultimate questions" and I couldn't make sense of it.

Wpnfire 04-16-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1577452)
No idea. You said "ultimate questions" and I couldn't make sense of it.

What the prime reality is
What is the external reality
What a human being is and where humans came from
What happens at death
Why it is possible to know anything at all
How humans know what is right and wrong
What the meaning of human history is

Eh, I take it back. The naturalist answers are stupid easy. You've probably got it all figured out.

The Batlord 04-16-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
What the prime reality is
What is the external reality
What a human being is and where humans came from
What happens at death
Why it is possible to know anything at all
How humans know what is right and wrong
What the meaning of human history is

Eh, I take it back. The naturalist answers are stupid easy. You've probably got it all figured out.

Solipsism is the answer to most of that.

Xurtio 04-16-2015 09:50 AM

Solipsism is a pretty uninformative answer, in my opinion.

Janszoon 04-16-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
What the prime reality is

The one we live in.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
What is the external reality

The reality that isn't confined to people's heads.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
What a human being is and where humans came from

A kind of hairless ape. We come from our ancestors.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
What happens at death

Life ends.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
Why it is possible to know anything at all

Because brains.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
How humans know what is right and wrong

They're taught it.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
What the meaning of human history is

It doesn't have a specific meaning.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
Eh, I take it back. The naturalist answers are stupid easy. You've probably got it all figured out.

I definitely don't have it all figured out. There's just not much to these questions.

The Batlord 04-16-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1577555)
Solipsism is a pretty uninformative answer, in my opinion.

I hate it when my delusions argue with me.

Wpnfire 04-16-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1577559)
There's just not much to these questions.

For (most) naturalists.

Ask an existential deist these questions and that's quite a different story.

Isbjørn 04-16-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577544)
What the prime reality is
What is the external reality
What a human being is and where humans came from
What happens at death
Why it is possible to know anything at all
How humans know what is right and wrong
What the meaning of human history is

Eh, I take it back. The naturalist answers are stupid easy. You've probably got it all figured out.

I don't see why one can't form political views without knowing the answer to these. You just need some sort of moral code and then you're ready to start.

Janszoon 04-16-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1577566)
For (most) naturalists.

Ask an existential deist these questions and that's quite a different story.

I just meant in the real world. Obviously in fantasy scenarios anything can happen.

The Batlord 04-16-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1577571)
I don't see why one can't form political views without knowing the answer to these. You just need some sort of moral code and then you're ready to start.

Except that it's easy for somebody even vaguely knowledgeable about a political ideology to ask manipulative, simplistic, if/then moral questions meant to lead somebody less politically informed to whatever decision they want:

"Do you think people who can't afford food should starve?"

"Do you think it's right for the government to take money that you've worked for and give it to someone who hasn't?"


So no, I don't think "some sort of moral code" is good enough. Education, experience, and a sense of your own intellectual limits are just as necessary. Not that this has anything to do with existential deism.


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