Originally Posted by Thrice

Maybe it is how you look at it, it seems the pro-choice defense is mostly related to the death of the fetus, where as the way I look at it, being pro-life is more of initially preventing such an event to have the opportunity to occur. If that makes any sense? I feel it is the means to an end provided by irresponsibility in the first place. My arguement really is focused more on preconception and manning up to your responsibilities. I feel abortion is a mulligan on life. This is why there a numerous contraceptions. If you play the lottery and lose do you get your money back? Basically, just man up. I guess since God was brought up, you could say its not his way, but dont quote me on this, for I am not a God fearing man and believe that this run on sentence can not be backed up by facts, only others beliefs.

Originally Posted by tore

I don't necessarily think the right way to promote responsibility is by taking away people's freedoms. Furthermore, by using the "manning-up" argument for being pro-life, you're extrapolating the argument into something which it isn't. This is simply about wether or not people should have the freedom to get abortions if they want - not their feelings of responsibility.

I think there are ways to have the freedom of abortion and promote responsibility in a society at the same time. If your reason for being pro-choice has more to do with people owning up to responsibilities, then I think it's better to start looking for other ways to achieve that goal than argue with the pro-choicers.